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Please do some drawings (or just doodles, even.)

by jibiki 18y ago

palish 18y ago
And the thread gets killed. Surprise surprise. I wish I knew why, so I know what bad behavior to not repeat here, but nobody is required to provide a reason for killing a thread, so I'm just confused. Maybe it was an editor with a prejudice against drugs? No way to know. I put a lot of effort into this post. Many longstanding members thought it was intellectually interesting. I was trying to contribute, in good spirit. In short, this sucks. I'll do a few drawings for you anyway. What's your email? Or send me a note at palish at gmail dot com.
- JacobAldridge 18y ago
  For the record, we're still here. It may have been killed for the drug-specific talk, or maybe because it was considered 'off-topic' in some way. But the site has been designed to be as transparent as possible, which means many of us have 'show-dead' on so that we can see past the editors. The discussion lives. Good luck, and be safe.
- axod 18y ago
  You're an idiot. This has nothing to do with Hacker news. Try http://www.drugs-forum.com/index.php http://www.drugs-forum.com/index.php
- rms 18y ago
  The editor that killed this made a mistake. Editor, you should ask yourself: "what would pg do?" I really do not think the answer is kill the story. You, editor, have been offended by one of the taboo Things You Can't Say and reduced to censorship. Being offensive to a sizable minority is absolutely not a reason to kill a story and without your clarification there is no other reason. The Steve Jobs connection alone should give this story sufficient hacker cred. It certainly is intellectually interesting and is being discussed maturely. Keep in mind that Ask HN stories are already vote weighted. Fortunately, there has been good discussion anyways and anyone that already commented will continue to see the story. I wouldn't worry about the killing too much. I can't believe this has never been submitted... I checked with and without the www. subdomain. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=581050 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=581050
  - axod 18y ago
    How many people flagged it? I'd expect a large number. Just because Steve Jobs tried it, doesn't make it useful. I'm sure some entrepreneurs have killed people or been tried for fraud. Undoubtedly those actions altered them as people, and perhaps even led to their eventual success. But it'd be a mistake to start copying them.
    - rms 18y ago
      It does seem likely that it was flagged to death without editor intervention. I would hope an editor undeads it, offending a minority of people is not a good reason for a story staying dead.
      - axod 18y ago
        If stories like that stay about, it'll drive a lot of people away from HN. Which IMHO would be a shame. There's obviously a lot of people who are 'pro drugs', and we've already had more than enough marijuana stories. In terms of actual interestingness, I'm sure anyone who is curious can search on google for first hand accounts of what being on drugs does/feels like. I also find it quite morbid. In the same way I would had the OP had expressed a curiosity to know how it feels to cut off his leg. (I'm not offended, and I don't think most people who flagged it are. I just don't think it's a good post for a site like this). Once again though, be useful to see on each article how many people flagged it.
        swombat 18y ago
        Well, this particular tack was generating some interesting discussion. Also, taking LSD is not like "cutting off your leg", no matter how much you may believe it to be. If you really want to talk about limbs, then taking LSD is more like growing an extra arm for a few hours. Wouldn't you like to try that in a risk-free manner? I don't think there's been all that many stories about acid. If those became a common occurence, then I'd start flagging them too. As far as I can see, there's only one of these here now.
        18y ago
- nostrademons 18y ago
  It's possible that it was killed for liability reasons. LSD possession is illegal in the U.S; if they didn't kill it at #1, they might be seen as encouraging illegal behavior. I remember that when I was an admin on a decent-sized web forum, we had to kill all threads that were about drug use, filesharing, or any other illegal activities, no matter how stupid the laws in question were.
- apsurd 18y ago
  aw come on, this post makes no sense. You specifically asked to not have a meta discussion around killing the story, you specifically asked for it to just be flagged, and yet here you are, crying for a meta discussion?
- deleted 18y ago
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Please do some drawings (or just doodles, even.)

by jibiki 18y ago

Please do some drawings (or just doodles, even.)

And the thread gets killed. Surprise surprise. I wish I knew why, so I know what bad behavior to not repeat here, but nobody is required to provide a reason for killing a thread, so I'm just confused. Maybe it was an editor with a prejudice against drugs? No way to know. I put a lot of effort into this post. Many longstanding members thought it was intellectually interesting. I was trying to contribute, in good spirit. In short, this sucks. I'll do a few drawings for you anyway. What's your email? Or send me a note at palish at gmail dot com.

JacobAldridge 18y ago
For the record, we're still here. It may have been killed for the drug-specific talk, or maybe because it was considered 'off-topic' in some way. But the site has been designed to be as transparent as possible, which means many of us have 'show-dead' on so that we can see past the editors. The discussion lives. Good luck, and be safe.
axod 18y ago
You're an idiot. This has nothing to do with Hacker news. Try http://www.drugs-forum.com/index.php http://www.drugs-forum.com/index.php
rms 18y ago
The editor that killed this made a mistake. Editor, you should ask yourself: "what would pg do?" I really do not think the answer is kill the story. You, editor, have been offended by one of the taboo Things You Can't Say and reduced to censorship. Being offensive to a sizable minority is absolutely not a reason to kill a story and without your clarification there is no other reason. The Steve Jobs connection alone should give this story sufficient hacker cred. It certainly is intellectually interesting and is being discussed maturely. Keep in mind that Ask HN stories are already vote weighted. Fortunately, there has been good discussion anyways and anyone that already commented will continue to see the story. I wouldn't worry about the killing too much. I can't believe this has never been submitted... I checked with and without the www. subdomain. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=581050 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=581050
- axod 18y ago
  How many people flagged it? I'd expect a large number. Just because Steve Jobs tried it, doesn't make it useful. I'm sure some entrepreneurs have killed people or been tried for fraud. Undoubtedly those actions altered them as people, and perhaps even led to their eventual success. But it'd be a mistake to start copying them.
  - rms 18y ago
    It does seem likely that it was flagged to death without editor intervention. I would hope an editor undeads it, offending a minority of people is not a good reason for a story staying dead.
    - axod 18y ago
      If stories like that stay about, it'll drive a lot of people away from HN. Which IMHO would be a shame. There's obviously a lot of people who are 'pro drugs', and we've already had more than enough marijuana stories. In terms of actual interestingness, I'm sure anyone who is curious can search on google for first hand accounts of what being on drugs does/feels like. I also find it quite morbid. In the same way I would had the OP had expressed a curiosity to know how it feels to cut off his leg. (I'm not offended, and I don't think most people who flagged it are. I just don't think it's a good post for a site like this). Once again though, be useful to see on each article how many people flagged it.
      - swombat 18y ago
        Well, this particular tack was generating some interesting discussion. Also, taking LSD is not like "cutting off your leg", no matter how much you may believe it to be. If you really want to talk about limbs, then taking LSD is more like growing an extra arm for a few hours. Wouldn't you like to try that in a risk-free manner? I don't think there's been all that many stories about acid. If those became a common occurence, then I'd start flagging them too. As far as I can see, there's only one of these here now.
      - 18y ago
nostrademons 18y ago
It's possible that it was killed for liability reasons. LSD possession is illegal in the U.S; if they didn't kill it at #1, they might be seen as encouraging illegal behavior. I remember that when I was an admin on a decent-sized web forum, we had to kill all threads that were about drug use, filesharing, or any other illegal activities, no matter how stupid the laws in question were.
apsurd 18y ago
aw come on, this post makes no sense. You specifically asked to not have a meta discussion around killing the story, you specifically asked for it to just be flagged, and yet here you are, crying for a meta discussion?
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