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Where does the 70% came from? Do you have a source for this? It would be better to check how many "scarf-wearers" are going to universities, this percentage wou

by krzyk 13y ago

Where does the 70% came from? Do you have a source for this? It would be better to check how many "scarf-wearers" are going to universities, this percentage would be meaningful. My opinion is that universities should be religion-free as science doesn't play well with religion. I think that the problem might be that the (nonsecular) east wants to rule the (secular) west and viceversa.

mda 13y ago
Does percentages matter? Lets assume it is 7%.. You can't imagine how many young girls burned by this... I agree universities should be "Religion free" there are two ways of achieving that, you don't care about religion, you allow all people form all religions fair and square, or second option, you ban people with "certain" religious beliefs from schools. Guess which one got applied in Turkey.
mc-lovin 13y ago
"religion-free" is a highly ambiguous term. Can you clarify? I think that a person has a right to wear whatever clothing they feel appropriate, assuming they aren't committing indecent exposure and they don't have giant spikes protruding from their clothing that could endanger others. Can you clarify what individual rights you think exist on university campuses, and how these interact with your goal of keeping universities "religion-free"?
jasimq 13y ago
Universities should be "religion-free" and students should have the freedom to express themselves. We talk about freedom but have double standards
spcs 13y ago
Entering universities while wearing head-scarves was forbidden. You couldn't physically enter them wearing a head-scarf until very recently. Is it the eastern part trying to impose its will on the western part or is it the eastern part trying to remove what western part imposed on them over decades? Here are what I see people are claiming to be signs of AKP Islamizing Turkey: allowing women with headscarves attend universities, forbidding shops sell alcohol in late night hours (after 10PM). In Ontario only government owned LCBO can sell liquor and its shops close at 6PM. The consumption of liquor in public places is forbidden completely in Canada. Surely Canada is not an Islamic state. Are we sure Turkey is a Muslim majority country? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_in_public#Canada http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_in_public#Canada He says he doesn't remember a source but he has heard it several times that over 70% wears headscarf. I found this article by Google: http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/default.aspx?pageid=438&n=private-sector-not-friendly-to-the-headscarved-than-the-state-research-says http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/default.aspx?pageid=438&#38...

by krzyk 13y ago

mda 13y ago

Does percentages matter? Lets assume it is 7%.. You can't imagine how many young girls burned by this... I agree universities should be "Religion free" there are two ways of achieving that, you don't care about religion, you allow all people form all religions fair and square, or second option, you ban people with "certain" religious beliefs from schools. Guess which one got applied in Turkey.

mc-lovin 13y ago

"religion-free" is a highly ambiguous term. Can you clarify? I think that a person has a right to wear whatever clothing they feel appropriate, assuming they aren't committing indecent exposure and they don't have giant spikes protruding from their clothing that could endanger others. Can you clarify what individual rights you think exist on university campuses, and how these interact with your goal of keeping universities "religion-free"?

jasimq 13y ago

Universities should be "religion-free" and students should have the freedom to express themselves. We talk about freedom but have double standards

spcs 13y ago

Entering universities while wearing head-scarves was forbidden. You couldn't physically enter them wearing a head-scarf until very recently. Is it the eastern part trying to impose its will on the western part or is it the eastern part trying to remove what western part imposed on them over decades? Here are what I see people are claiming to be signs of AKP Islamizing Turkey: allowing women with headscarves attend universities, forbidding shops sell alcohol in late night hours (after 10PM). In Ontario only government owned LCBO can sell liquor and its shops close at 6PM. The consumption of liquor in public places is forbidden completely in Canada. Surely Canada is not an Islamic state. Are we sure Turkey is a Muslim majority country? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_in_public#Canada http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_in_public#Canada He says he doesn't remember a source but he has heard it several times that over 70% wears headscarf. I found this article by Google: http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/default.aspx?pageid=438&n=private-sector-not-friendly-to-the-headscarved-than-the-state-research-says http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/default.aspx?pageid=438&#38...