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Another sponsored revolution.
by pknerd 13y ago
Another sponsored revolution.
- dasil003 13y agoThat comment merits an explanation.
- varjag 13y agoSome people find it deeply unsettling that someone could hold different political views sincerely. They cope with it by assuming the others are compensated in some form for their abnormal behavior. When I protested in my homeland I heard accusations of being paid to do this, even the price was specified ($20). Twenty bucks to go into a harsh cold night to be assaulted by police and possibly imprisoned on terrorism charges, what a deal :)
- dasil003 13y agoStrange kneejerk reaction since the commenter is from Pakistan. If he has some actual reason to believe this I'd like to hear it for discussion's sake.
- pknerd 13y agoNot knee jerk reaction, my mistake I did not expain at first place as I wrongly assumed readers would like to make attempts to learn facts.
- dasil003 13y agoClearly from my comments you would see that I am interested in learning facts so don't act so wounded. However, so far all you have presented is the idea that if the US sponsors some protests against an Islamic government, all protests against Islamic governments are created by US sponsorship. It's not very convincing without evidence.
- pknerd 13y agoEvidence. So far many things world believed didn't have any evidence, for instance WMD. Coming to your main Question, If you look how Egypt Spring started, it was all to getrid of Mobarak, US, the former ally of Mobarak left em all alone as did it in past. I could share articles like this(http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/50553/wikileaks-u-s-government-behind-egypt-revolution/ http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/50553/wikileaks-u-s-governme...) one but I left you upto you to figure out. Point is, every _revolution_ got started turned against US; be it Tunisia, Egypt and now Turkey. Those who are protesting will be crying out loud if some stern Islamic leader comes all of sudden and rule upon them.
- wavefunction 13y agoI understand you're from a part of the world where a lot of people are not fond of America (for both valid and invalid reasons, in my opinion). The same thing these people in Turkey are fighting against is going on all over the world, INCLUDING the US. I hope you understand that like pretty much everywhere, there are "good and decent" people and some "bad" people. Unfortunately, the "bad" people always seem to be the sorts who want to force other people to live their way, while the "good" people mostly want to live their lives the way they want and not force other people. It's as true of America as it is of Pakistan.
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- markdown 13y agoIt's a protest against a govt that is seen to be strongly pro-islam and authoritarian. The automatic reaction from some muslims will be that it is US-sponsored. Given the US's long track record of sponsoring coups and pro-western/secular movements, you can't really blame them.
- dasil003 13y agoHm, I see. Sort of an ironic assumption given the protest started with the planned replacement of a park with a shopping mall.
- lbeltrame 13y agoI'm not sure if I can understand the reasoning behind this comment, but if I were to follow up, there have been (not sure how factual), in the case of the so-called Arab Spring (or Arab Winter, as I call it, given what happened afterwards), accusations that some of these revolutions had a "push" from outside.
- pknerd 13y agodownvoting shows the ability to reject someone w/o knowing the reason but it does not make any difference. The so called Egypt Revolution was also backed by US initially to kick Mobarak out. Later things got out of control when Ikhwan got dominated. The so called protest is nothing but an attempt to sabotage Erdogan govt after his recent Islamic moves. Nobody is seeing the fact Erdogan helped Turkey to getrid of IMF and put turkey on right direction. Thousands of people are protesting in Bangladesh against cruel government who has killed thousands of Muslims so far. Since the govt is secular hence their evil doings are not being promoted anywhere including so called unbaised social media.