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> Ideally, employers would hire new CS graduates and spend a year or more grooming them, teaching then the specialized skills they need in that specific domain,
by greggman 13y ago
> Ideally, employers would hire new CS graduates and spend a year or more grooming them, teaching then the specialized skills they need in that specific domain, and helping them ramp up
Please No. That is what they do in Japan and I'd feel that's the number one reason programmers get paid shit in Japan. They hire straight out of school with no experience with salaries starting at around $30k. At 15 years experience you'll make somewhere between $45k and $60k.
Programmers in Japan make less than flight attendants
http://www.worldsalaries.org/japan.shtml http://www.worldsalaries.org/japan.shtml
Some people would say that's a reason they're in trouble. As the world switched to software being more important then hardware they didn't switch to valuing those that make software.
- TheCoelacanth 13y agoProgrammers get paid poorly in Japan because Japanese culture doesn't respect software. It has nothing to do with the way they are trained.
- jiggy2011 13y agoWhy does Japanese culture not respect software?
- greggman 13y agoIt does have to do with they way they are trained. If you have a culture that highers starting at $30k with no experience that has to affect overall salaries. Why pay for experience when you can just take next years cheap graduates? In fact Japan even goes so far as to not hire programmers over 35. Programmers are considered jobs for people 21 to 35. Just go read some jobs ads in Japanese.
- joyeuse6701 13y agomm, I'm not aware of any software giants from Japan, hardware giants however... Yay stagflation and such!