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I understand your anger. But exiting a blender when minituarized is really necessary! Honestly, if they do not TALK with you, it is probably a worthless job. A

I understand your anger. But exiting a blender when minituarized is really necessary! Honestly, if they do not TALK with you, it is probably a worthless job. And by talk I mean questions and answers are full duplez, like POSIX sockets. Blender!

eli_gottlieb 13y ago
The thing is, I'm not so much angry about being turned down as I am about the bureaucratic randomness and then being recruited by the same companies months later. Either I'm good enough to fill some job opening they have when they interview me, and they've got lots of job openings, or I'm not. Wasting weeks of my time when I could be saying "yes" to someone else (which is exactly what happened) is a problem. There's a saying: Killing your parents is insanity. Pleading to the court for mercy on grounds of being an orphan is chutzpah. We should call this the Dungeons and Dragons Job Interview: tune up your resume, practice all your best skills, compile them all down into a number (via computerized HR systems), and then use that number as your bonus on a D20 roll to see if you get through each stage of interviewing.
- mrgoldenbrown 13y ago
  At the risk of sounding like an old man patronizing a youngster, "welcome to the real world, kid." Unfortunately, getting hired is not as deterministic or fair as getting an A on an exam. It's certainly not as simple as "Either I'm good enough or I'm not." There is a random dice roll involved, for all kinds of messy real world reasons, and you've got to accept that and move on - do your best to rack up as many bonus modifiers as you can, and keep plugging away. (BTW, it seems like you have done that, as you found yourself a promising gig. Now you just need to let go of the anger :)
  - eli_gottlieb 13y ago
    Hey, mostly it's fine. I always come across as more angry than I actually am, because I'm just like that. No, what I'd really like to let go of is getting emails from recruiters regularly from firms that definitely don't want me right now. A company sent me a recruitment letter just last week, whose details I won't divulge. However, if they had looked at my resume or LinkedIn page (which is linked in my resume), they would have seen that I don't meet their listed requirements anyway. I haven't spent two full-time years in industry, and I certainly don't have two years' full-time engineering experience in the things listed under LIST OF SUBJECTS. I list myself as a graduate student on my profile and my recent (ie: Fall 2012 and later) resumes, and indicate no desire to drop out. So the strikes against me are: my experience level, my being employed already as a graduate student, and the fact that they're not looking for interns. Three obvious strikes, from publicly-available information about my situation. It ends up being like having cheerleaders flirt with me: flattering when I'm already safely paired-up but pathologically mismatched to who I actually am if I'm looking. TLDR: Go ahead and patronize. I probably deserve it, and it flatters me to think of myself as a young, immature squirt at the age of 24.

eli_gottlieb 13y ago

The thing is, I'm not so much angry about being turned down as I am about the bureaucratic randomness and then being recruited by the same companies months later. Either I'm good enough to fill some job opening they have when they interview me, and they've got lots of job openings, or I'm not. Wasting weeks of my time when I could be saying "yes" to someone else (which is exactly what happened) is a problem. There's a saying: Killing your parents is insanity. Pleading to the court for mercy on grounds of being an orphan is chutzpah. We should call this the Dungeons and Dragons Job Interview: tune up your resume, practice all your best skills, compile them all down into a number (via computerized HR systems), and then use that number as your bonus on a D20 roll to see if you get through each stage of interviewing.

mrgoldenbrown 13y ago
At the risk of sounding like an old man patronizing a youngster, "welcome to the real world, kid." Unfortunately, getting hired is not as deterministic or fair as getting an A on an exam. It's certainly not as simple as "Either I'm good enough or I'm not." There is a random dice roll involved, for all kinds of messy real world reasons, and you've got to accept that and move on - do your best to rack up as many bonus modifiers as you can, and keep plugging away. (BTW, it seems like you have done that, as you found yourself a promising gig. Now you just need to let go of the anger :)
- eli_gottlieb 13y ago
  Hey, mostly it's fine. I always come across as more angry than I actually am, because I'm just like that. No, what I'd really like to let go of is getting emails from recruiters regularly from firms that definitely don't want me right now. A company sent me a recruitment letter just last week, whose details I won't divulge. However, if they had looked at my resume or LinkedIn page (which is linked in my resume), they would have seen that I don't meet their listed requirements anyway. I haven't spent two full-time years in industry, and I certainly don't have two years' full-time engineering experience in the things listed under LIST OF SUBJECTS. I list myself as a graduate student on my profile and my recent (ie: Fall 2012 and later) resumes, and indicate no desire to drop out. So the strikes against me are: my experience level, my being employed already as a graduate student, and the fact that they're not looking for interns. Three obvious strikes, from publicly-available information about my situation. It ends up being like having cheerleaders flirt with me: flattering when I'm already safely paired-up but pathologically mismatched to who I actually am if I'm looking. TLDR: Go ahead and patronize. I probably deserve it, and it flatters me to think of myself as a young, immature squirt at the age of 24.