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Just terrible :( Why does it always seem like the worst and most insignificant wastes of human beings always take away great ones?

est 13y ago
> the worst and most insignificant wastes of human beings always take away great ones? Because you never cared about non-great ones. Observer bias.
ori_b 13y ago
Because worthwhile people generally don't go around killing others.
- lostlogin 13y ago
  Don't be too sure - some of histories supposedly greatest people have also been mass killers. Your views on them largely just depend on which side of the conflict(s) you were on and what time you are in. To take a fairly simple example, Churchill. Lots of good, lots to admire. But plenty of dark decisions and many deaths attributable to these.
yarou 13y ago
Because life is random and stochastic. The sooner you realize that your very existence was simply a roll of the dice, the more liberated you will become.
soheil 13y ago
Just because he wrote some code that was used so widely doesn't make him more significant than a janitor who cleans after you, or the "gang" member who was evading the brutal cops for a chance for his freedom. The sooner we realize people are equal because they're human fucking beings the greater hope for humanity to avoid its imminent demise.
- tomjen3 13y ago
  Gang members are absolutely not equal humans, as they make their life by taking, not creating. Janitors do.
  - thomasz 13y ago
    Maybe we should concentrate them in some sort of camps so that they can't 'take' from the good ones anymore.
    - wavefunction 13y ago
      We call them prisons, you may have heard about them.
    - tomjen3 13y ago
      Isn't that pretty much what we do with prisons? And the US has the longest sentences, but apparently that isn't enough.
- sejje 13y ago
  What makes someone more significant, then? What's your measure? People aren't equal, you can't make it so by saying it. The man who died was more significant than the man who killed him.
  - soheil 13y ago
    It's like asking what makes 5 greater than 5. Humans are all significant simply because they have rational minds and are rational beings. A human being cannot impose on others a value or worthiness, because we are rational beings and have independent minds. As you probably have noticed by now this is not me saying these things, it's from Immanuel Kant. I found these lectures on the topic absolutely amazing to watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBdfcR-8hEY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBdfcR-8hEY
    - jpgvm 13y ago

est 13y ago

> the worst and most insignificant wastes of human beings always take away great ones? Because you never cared about non-great ones. Observer bias.

ori_b 13y ago

Because worthwhile people generally don't go around killing others.

lostlogin 13y ago
Don't be too sure - some of histories supposedly greatest people have also been mass killers. Your views on them largely just depend on which side of the conflict(s) you were on and what time you are in. To take a fairly simple example, Churchill. Lots of good, lots to admire. But plenty of dark decisions and many deaths attributable to these.

yarou 13y ago

Because life is random and stochastic. The sooner you realize that your very existence was simply a roll of the dice, the more liberated you will become.

soheil 13y ago

Just because he wrote some code that was used so widely doesn't make him more significant than a janitor who cleans after you, or the "gang" member who was evading the brutal cops for a chance for his freedom. The sooner we realize people are equal because they're human fucking beings the greater hope for humanity to avoid its imminent demise.

tomjen3 13y ago
Gang members are absolutely not equal humans, as they make their life by taking, not creating. Janitors do.
- thomasz 13y ago
  Maybe we should concentrate them in some sort of camps so that they can't 'take' from the good ones anymore.
  - wavefunction 13y ago
    We call them prisons, you may have heard about them.
  - tomjen3 13y ago
    Isn't that pretty much what we do with prisons? And the US has the longest sentences, but apparently that isn't enough.
sejje 13y ago
What makes someone more significant, then? What's your measure? People aren't equal, you can't make it so by saying it. The man who died was more significant than the man who killed him.
- soheil 13y ago
  It's like asking what makes 5 greater than 5. Humans are all significant simply because they have rational minds and are rational beings. A human being cannot impose on others a value or worthiness, because we are rational beings and have independent minds. As you probably have noticed by now this is not me saying these things, it's from Immanuel Kant. I found these lectures on the topic absolutely amazing to watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBdfcR-8hEY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBdfcR-8hEY
  - jpgvm 13y ago