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The US government is missing the mark so completely, it is scary. Does anyone here think that actual, real terrorists are going to be discussing their plans us

by SeanDav 13y ago

The US government is missing the mark so completely, it is scary. Does anyone here think that actual, real terrorists are going to be discussing their plans using anything other than highly encrypted protocols, along with code words? These measures are absolutely of no use in catching anyone that is more intelligent than a gnat that actually wants to harm the US.

alan_cx 13y ago
I'm right with you in spirit, you should be 100% correct. But these terrorists do keep using electronic communications. I don't think any one serious and vaguely intelligent planning a major crime would do so using electronic communications. Surely every one now knows that it is iffy at best, and many believe that it is basically easily open to the authorities at a whim. But over an over again, these terrorists and/or their sympathisers do keep using electronic communications, then getting caught. Almost every case I can think of that has ended up in court and is reported on, has a big element of electronic communications evidence. It seems they are indeed as intelligent as that poor gnat, (who is probably asking why he is being bought in to it!!!). But, IIRC, a lot of the terrorists, we are told, are pretty smart people. They are not trailer trash (US) or chav scum (UK), they turn out to be degree level people, or students studying for degrees. Smart people, right? Ok, a fair number of them expect to die as a result of their terrorist action, but as we saw in Boston, that was not the case for them. But, why risk the "mission" being blown before it happens because of an electronic interception? They then risk doing the time, with out doing the crime. Worse still, it then gets used to justify the removal of various freedoms and liberty from the average citizen. And so on.... What you are saying should be 100% correct. It really should. But insanely, it isn't. Quite bizarre if you ask me.
rayiner 13y ago
> Does anyone here think that actual, real terrorists are going to be discussing their plans using anything other than highly encrypted protocols, along with code words? We keep seeing that a lot of terrorists are quite amateurish.

by SeanDav 13y ago

alan_cx 13y ago

I'm right with you in spirit, you should be 100% correct. But these terrorists do keep using electronic communications. I don't think any one serious and vaguely intelligent planning a major crime would do so using electronic communications. Surely every one now knows that it is iffy at best, and many believe that it is basically easily open to the authorities at a whim. But over an over again, these terrorists and/or their sympathisers do keep using electronic communications, then getting caught. Almost every case I can think of that has ended up in court and is reported on, has a big element of electronic communications evidence. It seems they are indeed as intelligent as that poor gnat, (who is probably asking why he is being bought in to it!!!). But, IIRC, a lot of the terrorists, we are told, are pretty smart people. They are not trailer trash (US) or chav scum (UK), they turn out to be degree level people, or students studying for degrees. Smart people, right? Ok, a fair number of them expect to die as a result of their terrorist action, but as we saw in Boston, that was not the case for them. But, why risk the "mission" being blown before it happens because of an electronic interception? They then risk doing the time, with out doing the crime. Worse still, it then gets used to justify the removal of various freedoms and liberty from the average citizen. And so on.... What you are saying should be 100% correct. It really should. But insanely, it isn't. Quite bizarre if you ask me.

rayiner 13y ago

> Does anyone here think that actual, real terrorists are going to be discussing their plans using anything other than highly encrypted protocols, along with code words? We keep seeing that a lot of terrorists are quite amateurish.