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Get past the comedy, listen to the facts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPZed8af9RI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPZed8af9RI The facts stated have never

by alan_cx 13y ago

Get past the comedy, listen to the facts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPZed8af9RI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPZed8af9RI The facts stated have never been refuted. Be ashamed. Either Americans are the most criminal in the world, or the US justice system has a real problem. I mean, worse than Iran? Worse than China? South Africa? Are Americans really that bad? Perhaps now we know a certain hacker preferred death. I know I would. As a British citizen, I would genuinely rather kill my self than end up in the US justice system. Do not doubt that. And I know my government will not protect me from American "justice" either. Im sorry, but this makes me very, very angry. If a country cant get justice right and fair, then Im sorry, I believe it has no right being a country, let alone being a country that thinks it has the right to interfere on the world state, and have the sheer arrogance to pontificate on others.

RyanMcGreal 13y ago
"A legal system based on baseball just seems bizarre." So simple and so horribly true. Criminal justice politics in America is utterly overrun with the crudest and most cynical pandering to simple fear, revulsion and vindictiveness.
jrokisky 13y ago
There are many problems with the US Justice System, but those standards are impossible for any country to meet.
- eru 13y ago
  Norway and Sweden don't seem too bad.
  - mpyne 13y ago
    Assange apparently disagrees.
    - eru 13y ago
      From what I remember, he would be fine with being tried in a Swedish court. He just wanted a guarantee of no US extradition, that Sweden would not provide.
    - lawnchair_larry 13y ago
      Quite the opposite. He has been asking Sweden to guarantee that he will not be extradited to the US, and in return he will face trial in Sweden. They are still trying to negotiate this. He has criticisms about what has happened in Sweden, no doubt. But it's the prospect of going near a US prison that is the non-starter, and the basis of his asylum.
  - jrokisky 13y ago
    That might be the case, but what is right and fair are incredibly subjective and constantly changing.
kasra 13y ago
"I mean, worse than Iran? Worse than China? South Africa? Are Americans really that bad?" You should be ashamed of your prejudices (obviously I'm not commenting on US justice system here).
- honzzz 13y ago
  What prejudice are you talking about? Countries can be measured and compared through many different ways. One factor that can be measured is prison population rate. Compared to other countries Iran, China and South Africa are really bad at this, US is even worse. Measurable fact, not prejudice.
infinitone 13y ago
> I mean, worse than Iran? Worse than China? South Africa? Are Americans really that bad? Your brainwashed intellect (not sure if its even intellect) has led you to believe that the US is a bastion of freedom when its quite the contrary. Stop watching Fox News for crying out loud.

by alan_cx 13y ago

RyanMcGreal 13y ago

"A legal system based on baseball just seems bizarre." So simple and so horribly true. Criminal justice politics in America is utterly overrun with the crudest and most cynical pandering to simple fear, revulsion and vindictiveness.

jrokisky 13y ago

There are many problems with the US Justice System, but those standards are impossible for any country to meet.

eru 13y ago
Norway and Sweden don't seem too bad.
- mpyne 13y ago
  Assange apparently disagrees.
  - eru 13y ago
    From what I remember, he would be fine with being tried in a Swedish court. He just wanted a guarantee of no US extradition, that Sweden would not provide.
  - lawnchair_larry 13y ago
    Quite the opposite. He has been asking Sweden to guarantee that he will not be extradited to the US, and in return he will face trial in Sweden. They are still trying to negotiate this. He has criticisms about what has happened in Sweden, no doubt. But it's the prospect of going near a US prison that is the non-starter, and the basis of his asylum.
- jrokisky 13y ago
  That might be the case, but what is right and fair are incredibly subjective and constantly changing.

kasra 13y ago

"I mean, worse than Iran? Worse than China? South Africa? Are Americans really that bad?" You should be ashamed of your prejudices (obviously I'm not commenting on US justice system here).

honzzz 13y ago
What prejudice are you talking about? Countries can be measured and compared through many different ways. One factor that can be measured is prison population rate. Compared to other countries Iran, China and South Africa are really bad at this, US is even worse. Measurable fact, not prejudice.

infinitone 13y ago

> I mean, worse than Iran? Worse than China? South Africa? Are Americans really that bad? Your brainwashed intellect (not sure if its even intellect) has led you to believe that the US is a bastion of freedom when its quite the contrary. Stop watching Fox News for crying out loud.