> As far as i can tell i still can't purchase a system without windows unless i build it myself. I've bought a laptop from System76 which I've been very happy

> As far as i can tell i still can't purchase a system without windows unless i build it myself. I've bought a laptop from System76 which I've been very happy with. Everything they sell runs Ubuntu. I've just bought a desktop from ZaReason; I'm looking forward to it. They list all the major distros (to include Debian!), and appear to be willing to load others if you ask nicely.