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I'm sorry to hear what's happened to you and your family -- it's clearly unacceptable. I'm not going to defend that. But I do want to respond to your last comme

by Osmium 13y ago

I'm sorry to hear what's happened to you and your family -- it's clearly unacceptable. I'm not going to defend that. But I do want to respond to your last comment, because I don't want you to think I posted what I said from a position of being brainwashed by propaganda. I wasn't. It just happens that my own experiences, and my family's experiences, with the NHS have been positive (so far at least). I'm actually due to have an operation myself next week, one that is more preventative than anything and which could've been deferred had cost been a factor. Hopefully it'll go well. I know it's of little comfort that someone else's experiences have been good, but there it is anyway. For what it's worth, how would you make things better?

jff 13y ago
Well, if the eeeeeeevil doctors are really recommending things like x-rays based on profits, her problem would have been caught on the first visit, presumably.
pointyhats 13y ago
It is entirely up to the luck of the draw unfortunately. The problem being that it shouldn't be at all down to luck. How would I make things better? Unfortunately the government seem to think that capitalism can be a host to socialism (i.e. the UK can host the NHS as a socialist concept). This plainly doesn't work as the last few years in particular have proven and ends up creating a dumping ground for the elite, the unionised masses and the worst of all: the incompetent. The solution is pick capitalism or socialism and all their associated ills, then eliminate the elite, the unions and the incompetent universally. A secondary problem is that this country is entirely skill-less and the population is growing rapidly. The skilled public workforce isn't growing at all with this. Can we fix this? Probably not.
- takluyver 13y ago
  > The solution is pick capitalism or socialism and all their associated ills That sounds like a terrible solution. I'd much rather try to balance bits of capitalism and socialism as necessary. Yes, it's hard, yes, we'll get things wrong, no, that doesn't mean it's not worth trying. 'Be wary of simple answers to complex problems'.

by Osmium 13y ago

jff 13y ago

Well, if the eeeeeeevil doctors are really recommending things like x-rays based on profits, her problem would have been caught on the first visit, presumably.

pointyhats 13y ago

It is entirely up to the luck of the draw unfortunately. The problem being that it shouldn't be at all down to luck. How would I make things better? Unfortunately the government seem to think that capitalism can be a host to socialism (i.e. the UK can host the NHS as a socialist concept). This plainly doesn't work as the last few years in particular have proven and ends up creating a dumping ground for the elite, the unionised masses and the worst of all: the incompetent. The solution is pick capitalism or socialism and all their associated ills, then eliminate the elite, the unions and the incompetent universally. A secondary problem is that this country is entirely skill-less and the population is growing rapidly. The skilled public workforce isn't growing at all with this. Can we fix this? Probably not.

takluyver 13y ago
> The solution is pick capitalism or socialism and all their associated ills That sounds like a terrible solution. I'd much rather try to balance bits of capitalism and socialism as necessary. Yes, it's hard, yes, we'll get things wrong, no, that doesn't mean it's not worth trying. 'Be wary of simple answers to complex problems'.