web apps === web pages , no matter how people try to spin it , and it will always be that way , not matter how much layers we can pile on html and javascript.

web apps === web pages , no matter how people try to spin it , and it will always be that way , not matter how much layers we can pile on html and javascript. It was never intended for anything else and the fact that one has to navigate between html documents proves it. Try to create a "webapp" without an html page -> doesnt work. the whole web model is about documents and links. THAT SAID it doesnt mean one cant do awesome stuffs with it. But sometimes developpers forget the basic of HTML when developping javascript heavy products. I myself am working on a big modeling app for CS students with angularJS ( MV* ) and jquery (+ a ton of plugin). AngularJS makes it very easy and clean.