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Safely driving over 1300km (edit: SF to Seattle) without stopping is impossible. http://drowsydriving.org/about/facts-and-stats/ http://drowsydriving.org/about

by markvdb 13y ago

Safely driving over 1300km (edit: SF to Seattle) without stopping is impossible. http://drowsydriving.org/about/facts-and-stats/ http://drowsydriving.org/about/facts-and-stats/ Please adjust your driving behavior.

rdl 13y ago
It's 636 miles to Portland. I've averaged in the 70mph range on that trip, since there are stretches of I-5 where much higher speeds are fairly safe (and the speed limit is 75 on a lot of it). 9h of concentration isn't that unreasonable, since you do need to stop for gas once (in Oregon, usually, which means it's slow). San Jose to Vegas is 523 miles, and doing that in 6-7 hours is quite feasible (although it's entirely possible for it to take 12-14 hours with traffic on I-5 and I-15 if things go wrong)
- Retric 13y ago
  1300 km is 800 miles or 11.5 hours at 70mph + one fill up. I don't see most people being able to do that without zoning out.
  - devrelm 13y ago
    It's not that bad. I take weekend trips between NYC and [1 hour west of Chicago] multiple times a year. At around 870 miles, it's about a 13-14 hour drive with pit-stops. I usually split the trip into 2 days from NYC to Illinois, but only because I typically leave right after work, and I certainly wouldn't want to drive overnight. The trip back is usually done in one day, ~10am to ~midnight. This usually includes 2-3 stops for gas and food. I wouldn't mind these stops being half an hour instead of their usual ~15 minutes, but it would mean that I would have to leave an hour earlier, or get home an hour later. since I'd have 50-100 miles less range per "fill-up" with the top-of-the-line Model S, I'd probably have to make an extra stop as well. Ultimately, I look forward to none of this discussion mattering in 10 years, at which time I fully expect 400+ mile range in self-driving EV cars that charge in 10 minutes. ***fingers-crossed***
goatforce5 13y ago
Veering off on a tangent, but this once happened: "The 12th round-Australia motoring event run since the first (1953) Redex, the [largely off-road 18,000km, 14 day] 1979 Repco is now acknowledged as the toughest long-distance rally since the continent-to-continent epics of the first decade of the 20th century. Like earlier round-Australia trials and the London-to-Sydney epics of 1968 and 1977, crews were expected to drive virtually non stop for days at a time with limited rest breaks. Nowadays this would be considered irresponsibly dangerous." http://repcoroundaustralia.blogspot.ca/ http://repcoroundaustralia.blogspot.ca/
marssaxman 13y ago
What do you mean by "without stopping"? Are you including fuel stops? I don't know of any vehicle which has an 800-mile range, so in a purely superficial sense your statement is of course correct; but your reference to "driving behavior" and link to "drowsydriving.org" suggests that you are focused more on human limits than those of our vehicles. If that is the case, I am here to tell you that driving from Seattle to San Francisco in a single run is neither impossible nor even particularly remarkable. I make this trip two or three times a year, visiting my California-based family. I-5 is a smooth, easy, comfortable road, well engineered and well maintained. The challenge is not fatigue but boredom, especially through the long, straight sections in the wide-open countryside of Nothern California, where average traffic speed approaches 80 mph. Bring an interesting companion or some good energetic music and you're set.
- rdl 13y ago
  F-250 diesel gets 22mpg on the highway. You can easily get dual 25 gallon tanks, and I've seen them with extra 60-70 (yes, this is absurd). With 50 gallons you'd have about 1k miles range. (I've driven one with dual big tanks, but it also had about 3000 extra pounds of weight and run-flat tires and modified suspension, so it wasn't really comparable, and never went above 50mph) A VW Jetta can get 45mpg if you're really lucky, with a 14.5gal tank, so about 650. ML350 is about 700 miles, and the old TDI VW Passats were about a 20 gallon tank and good for about 1000 miles stock.
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by markvdb 13y ago

rdl 13y ago

It's 636 miles to Portland. I've averaged in the 70mph range on that trip, since there are stretches of I-5 where much higher speeds are fairly safe (and the speed limit is 75 on a lot of it). 9h of concentration isn't that unreasonable, since you do need to stop for gas once (in Oregon, usually, which means it's slow). San Jose to Vegas is 523 miles, and doing that in 6-7 hours is quite feasible (although it's entirely possible for it to take 12-14 hours with traffic on I-5 and I-15 if things go wrong)

Retric 13y ago
1300 km is 800 miles or 11.5 hours at 70mph + one fill up. I don't see most people being able to do that without zoning out.
- devrelm 13y ago
  It's not that bad. I take weekend trips between NYC and [1 hour west of Chicago] multiple times a year. At around 870 miles, it's about a 13-14 hour drive with pit-stops. I usually split the trip into 2 days from NYC to Illinois, but only because I typically leave right after work, and I certainly wouldn't want to drive overnight. The trip back is usually done in one day, ~10am to ~midnight. This usually includes 2-3 stops for gas and food. I wouldn't mind these stops being half an hour instead of their usual ~15 minutes, but it would mean that I would have to leave an hour earlier, or get home an hour later. since I'd have 50-100 miles less range per "fill-up" with the top-of-the-line Model S, I'd probably have to make an extra stop as well. Ultimately, I look forward to none of this discussion mattering in 10 years, at which time I fully expect 400+ mile range in self-driving EV cars that charge in 10 minutes. ***fingers-crossed***

goatforce5 13y ago

Veering off on a tangent, but this once happened: "The 12th round-Australia motoring event run since the first (1953) Redex, the [largely off-road 18,000km, 14 day] 1979 Repco is now acknowledged as the toughest long-distance rally since the continent-to-continent epics of the first decade of the 20th century. Like earlier round-Australia trials and the London-to-Sydney epics of 1968 and 1977, crews were expected to drive virtually non stop for days at a time with limited rest breaks. Nowadays this would be considered irresponsibly dangerous." http://repcoroundaustralia.blogspot.ca/ http://repcoroundaustralia.blogspot.ca/

marssaxman 13y ago

What do you mean by "without stopping"? Are you including fuel stops? I don't know of any vehicle which has an 800-mile range, so in a purely superficial sense your statement is of course correct; but your reference to "driving behavior" and link to "drowsydriving.org" suggests that you are focused more on human limits than those of our vehicles. If that is the case, I am here to tell you that driving from Seattle to San Francisco in a single run is neither impossible nor even particularly remarkable. I make this trip two or three times a year, visiting my California-based family. I-5 is a smooth, easy, comfortable road, well engineered and well maintained. The challenge is not fatigue but boredom, especially through the long, straight sections in the wide-open countryside of Nothern California, where average traffic speed approaches 80 mph. Bring an interesting companion or some good energetic music and you're set.

rdl 13y ago
F-250 diesel gets 22mpg on the highway. You can easily get dual 25 gallon tanks, and I've seen them with extra 60-70 (yes, this is absurd). With 50 gallons you'd have about 1k miles range. (I've driven one with dual big tanks, but it also had about 3000 extra pounds of weight and run-flat tires and modified suspension, so it wasn't really comparable, and never went above 50mph) A VW Jetta can get 45mpg if you're really lucky, with a 14.5gal tank, so about 650. ML350 is about 700 miles, and the old TDI VW Passats were about a 20 gallon tank and good for about 1000 miles stock.
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