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Blocking isn't something I have to answer to anyone for, it's a feature in Twitter that's useful to help keep down the flamage. I think it's one of their greate

Blocking isn't something I have to answer to anyone for, it's a feature in Twitter that's useful to help keep down the flamage. I think it's one of their greatest innovations. A little feedback -- you read a lot of meaning into things that are a lot simpler than you think. For example, the markdown support was added because it was coming up a lot in feature requests from users. It's just that simple. Nothing more to it than that. I've always used MORE and its descendants to write. I wrote every DaveNet piece in MORE or Frontier or the OPML Editor. I write Scripting News in the OPML Editor. Outliners are good for writing. Like I said, I don't dislike you, or even know you (as you point out). And it probably doesn't matter if you contribute to the mail list, but I don't see how it could hurt. Whatever.

bowerbird 13y ago
dave said: > Blocking isn't something I have to answer to anyone for i wasn't asking you to "answer to" me for your blocking... if you want to ignore people like me who say things that we think you need to hear, go ahead and ignore us, i don't care. heck, that's the reason why so many people ignore _you_, dave. > I think it's one of their greatest innovations. i'm sure you do. but ignoring people is not an "innovation". i was merely telling you why i wouldn't join your listserve, even if i did think it'd be useful. (and, as i said, i don't; i can get more information by simply searching around a bit. and further, the horizon of the cloud has eclipsed dropbox.) > markdown support was added because it was coming up a lot um, yes, dave, i quite well understand that it is your users who are moving you toward using fargo as a writing-tool, and that's precisely why i said i hope that they succeed with it, so i can learn from _them_ how to make such a dual focus work. what you or i _think_ can work doesn't really matter (which is why i'm not interested in your effort to tell me what you think). what matters is whether people can show me a way to make it work. > I write Scripting News in the OPML Editor. and finally, yes, dave, it's certainly possible to use an outliner to write lots and lots and lots and lots of short blog articles. but that's not long-form writing. a _book_ is long-form writing, one cohesive entity that has an arc from the beginning to the end. heck, mike cane has used twitter to "write" over 275,000 tweets, but i don't consider _that_ to be "long-form writing" either... -bowerbird
- davewiner 13y ago
  Is this you? https://twitter.com/bowerbird https://twitter.com/bowerbird BTW, the only reason I block people on Twitter is if they tell me to shut up (directly or indirectly) or if they make personal comments. I've now read several of your rants here, and it doesn't surprise me one bit that I blocked you on Twitter. You're a very inspired writer, but your inspiration is very very dark! Maybe you should write gothic novels with your fabulous writing tools. ;-)
  - bowerbird 13y ago
    um, no, that's not my account. that's an australian woman. and i never told you to "shut up", directly or indirectly. plus, when i do use that phrase, it's only in a joking way, because i'm a poet and i believe very deeply in free speech. also, i don't do "rants" -- my tone is always even-tempered, and i use reason, not emotion -- plus my inspiration is _not_ "dark", let alone "very dark", let alone "very very dark"... i take myself quite lightly, which is why i fly with angels. so no, i won't be writing any gothic novels any time soon. :+) now, have a nice day. -bowerbird p.s. apologies to lurkers, for letting this go so far off-topic.
    - davewiner 13y ago
      If you had done all that, I wouldn't have blocked you. :-)
      - bowerbird 13y ago
        this dialog has now become too boring for the lurkers -- they care why you banned me even less than i do -- so i am officially leaving this thread at this time... but notice that my participation in this thread started with: > fargo is most definitely an interesting web-app, > and i can see it being useful for many people... it seems you can never say enough positive things about dave. -bowerbird

bowerbird 13y ago

dave said: > Blocking isn't something I have to answer to anyone for i wasn't asking you to "answer to" me for your blocking... if you want to ignore people like me who say things that we think you need to hear, go ahead and ignore us, i don't care. heck, that's the reason why so many people ignore _you_, dave. > I think it's one of their greatest innovations. i'm sure you do. but ignoring people is not an "innovation". i was merely telling you why i wouldn't join your listserve, even if i did think it'd be useful. (and, as i said, i don't; i can get more information by simply searching around a bit. and further, the horizon of the cloud has eclipsed dropbox.) > markdown support was added because it was coming up a lot um, yes, dave, i quite well understand that it is your users who are moving you toward using fargo as a writing-tool, and that's precisely why i said i hope that they succeed with it, so i can learn from _them_ how to make such a dual focus work. what you or i _think_ can work doesn't really matter (which is why i'm not interested in your effort to tell me what you think). what matters is whether people can show me a way to make it work. > I write Scripting News in the OPML Editor. and finally, yes, dave, it's certainly possible to use an outliner to write lots and lots and lots and lots of short blog articles. but that's not long-form writing. a _book_ is long-form writing, one cohesive entity that has an arc from the beginning to the end. heck, mike cane has used twitter to "write" over 275,000 tweets, but i don't consider _that_ to be "long-form writing" either... -bowerbird

davewiner 13y ago
Is this you? https://twitter.com/bowerbird https://twitter.com/bowerbird BTW, the only reason I block people on Twitter is if they tell me to shut up (directly or indirectly) or if they make personal comments. I've now read several of your rants here, and it doesn't surprise me one bit that I blocked you on Twitter. You're a very inspired writer, but your inspiration is very very dark! Maybe you should write gothic novels with your fabulous writing tools. ;-)
- bowerbird 13y ago
  um, no, that's not my account. that's an australian woman. and i never told you to "shut up", directly or indirectly. plus, when i do use that phrase, it's only in a joking way, because i'm a poet and i believe very deeply in free speech. also, i don't do "rants" -- my tone is always even-tempered, and i use reason, not emotion -- plus my inspiration is _not_ "dark", let alone "very dark", let alone "very very dark"... i take myself quite lightly, which is why i fly with angels. so no, i won't be writing any gothic novels any time soon. :+) now, have a nice day. -bowerbird p.s. apologies to lurkers, for letting this go so far off-topic.
  - davewiner 13y ago
    If you had done all that, I wouldn't have blocked you. :-)
    - bowerbird 13y ago
      this dialog has now become too boring for the lurkers -- they care why you banned me even less than i do -- so i am officially leaving this thread at this time... but notice that my participation in this thread started with: > fargo is most definitely an interesting web-app, > and i can see it being useful for many people... it seems you can never say enough positive things about dave. -bowerbird