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I think this is exactly what Skeleton tries to be. http://www.getskeleton.com/ http://www.getskeleton.com/ I will say though that Foundation is much easier to

I think this is exactly what Skeleton tries to be. http://www.getskeleton.com/ http://www.getskeleton.com/ I will say though that Foundation is much easier to customize styles for than Bootstrap, which is one of the primary reasons we now use Bootstrap for internal apps or side projects which we don't intend to implement a custom design, but Foundation for all sites which we plan on designing.

akurilin 13y ago
One thing to keep in mind is that Skeleton has not seen a single commit in the past year, so it's not clear if the framework is going to be supported long-term. It's probably better as a blueprint for one's own homebrew minimalistic CSS framework.
- ricardobeat 13y ago
  It doesn't need to change until flexbox is well supported. I've just used skeleton in a project without any problems.
- eyevinx 13y ago
  https://github.com/dmur/Skeleton https://github.com/dmur/Skeleton appears to be a more active fork.
- nobodysfool 13y ago
  So a framework needs to update every 6 months just because that would make you feel better about it? Also, your statement is factually incorrect. There was a single commit in the past year. If you had said that next month, you might have been correct. The author is on twitter...
  - bti 13y ago
    Doesn't need to be updates for the sake of updates. There are open pull requests and issues.
  - akurilin 13y ago
    1) Nitpick about 11 months vs 12 months. Are you adding any value to the conversation? 2) The author being on Twitter doesn't affect the 31 outstanding pull requests and the 52 issues filed against the GitHub repository. Again, I'm not clear what you're getting at.
marknutter 13y ago
I'm using Foundation on a project as well and I still find it a big pain to override the styles. I end up writing more CSS to override styles I don't want than I would if I just wrote everything from scratch.
- JangoSteve 13y ago
  Really? We've implemented completely custom designs on top of Foundation for several sites now and haven't had any problems. Then again, we work to get the layout the way we like it with Foundation before we start designing, maybe that's why. For us, things like buttons required a ton of overriding with Bootstrap when we customized the button design, but Foundation didn't. We found this largely to be the case because Foundation makes less assumptions about how buttons are styled to begin with. For example, buttons are pretty basic with square corners. If you want rounded corners, you just add the "round" class. If you want buttons with a different radius, you just create your own new class with a specific border radius and add that. Different color? Create a new class with a background color and add that. What in Foundation did you experience pain trying to override?

akurilin 13y ago

One thing to keep in mind is that Skeleton has not seen a single commit in the past year, so it's not clear if the framework is going to be supported long-term. It's probably better as a blueprint for one's own homebrew minimalistic CSS framework.

ricardobeat 13y ago
It doesn't need to change until flexbox is well supported. I've just used skeleton in a project without any problems.
eyevinx 13y ago
https://github.com/dmur/Skeleton https://github.com/dmur/Skeleton appears to be a more active fork.
nobodysfool 13y ago
So a framework needs to update every 6 months just because that would make you feel better about it? Also, your statement is factually incorrect. There was a single commit in the past year. If you had said that next month, you might have been correct. The author is on twitter...
- bti 13y ago
  Doesn't need to be updates for the sake of updates. There are open pull requests and issues.
- akurilin 13y ago
  1) Nitpick about 11 months vs 12 months. Are you adding any value to the conversation? 2) The author being on Twitter doesn't affect the 31 outstanding pull requests and the 52 issues filed against the GitHub repository. Again, I'm not clear what you're getting at.

marknutter 13y ago

I'm using Foundation on a project as well and I still find it a big pain to override the styles. I end up writing more CSS to override styles I don't want than I would if I just wrote everything from scratch.

JangoSteve 13y ago
Really? We've implemented completely custom designs on top of Foundation for several sites now and haven't had any problems. Then again, we work to get the layout the way we like it with Foundation before we start designing, maybe that's why. For us, things like buttons required a ton of overriding with Bootstrap when we customized the button design, but Foundation didn't. We found this largely to be the case because Foundation makes less assumptions about how buttons are styled to begin with. For example, buttons are pretty basic with square corners. If you want rounded corners, you just add the "round" class. If you want buttons with a different radius, you just create your own new class with a specific border radius and add that. Different color? Create a new class with a background color and add that. What in Foundation did you experience pain trying to override?