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> And we WONT write on your wall under any circumstances. Being able to trust strangers is nice, but not needing to is even better.

by john_b 13y ago

Karunamon 13y ago
If I recall correctly, apps must explicitly ask permission (above and beyond the login) and authorizaton which just gives access to your "basic information". Oftentimes you can deny the post ability. You can't tell until you arrive at the screen, but if you don't click okay, nobody's posting anything on your wall.
- DougWebb 13y ago
  Yeah, until Facebook quietly changes how that works and gives all sorts of new permissions to apps you've already authorized with. That's the real problem here: Facebook has a history of wanting to expose as much personal information as possible, including exposing information that was previously not exposed without warning. I don't necessarily distrust the OP's business today, nor do I necessarily disagree with the permission settings I can set today. What I don't trust is Facebook's future changes to those permission settings, nor what the OP's business is going to do when/if it has more access to my information than it used to have.
  - dolphenstein 13y ago
    You can remove the app. Its not permissions for life.
    - daave 13y ago
      That does nothing to prevent the app from retaining the information they obtained using the Facebook API during the time they were authorized (yes it's against the TOS to do so, but it's completely unenforceable).
      - mccolin 13y ago
        But the information they would retain would be the same information they'd have if you'd signed up with email and manually entered information.
        mayank 13y ago
        Not really, basic permissions on facebook includes your friend list.
        DougWebb 13y ago
        That's not true at all. If I enter information manually, then the site has exactly the information I've chosen to give it, no more and no less, until I decide to provide more. That is most likely not the same information I've shared through Facebook. But if the site gathers information from my Facebook account, then it gets whatever Facebook chooses to give it; the choice is not under my control. If Facebook had a history of strong privacy protection and strict opt-in policy to information sharing, this wouldn't be so bad. But since Facebook has the completely opposite history, including Zuck coming right out and saying that he would prefer all Facebook user info to be shared, I'm not going to trust Facebook to keep whatever I want private private.
- rhizome 13y ago
  "Basic information" on Facebook includes your friendlist. https://www.facebook.com/about/privacy/your-info-on-other https://www.facebook.com/about/privacy/your-info-on-other
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> And we WONT write on your wall under any circumstances. Being able to trust strangers is nice, but not needing to is even better.

by john_b 13y ago

> And we WONT write on your wall under any circumstances. Being able to trust strangers is nice, but not needing to is even better.

Karunamon 13y ago

If I recall correctly, apps must explicitly ask permission (above and beyond the login) and authorizaton which just gives access to your "basic information". Oftentimes you can deny the post ability. You can't tell until you arrive at the screen, but if you don't click okay, nobody's posting anything on your wall.

DougWebb 13y ago
Yeah, until Facebook quietly changes how that works and gives all sorts of new permissions to apps you've already authorized with. That's the real problem here: Facebook has a history of wanting to expose as much personal information as possible, including exposing information that was previously not exposed without warning. I don't necessarily distrust the OP's business today, nor do I necessarily disagree with the permission settings I can set today. What I don't trust is Facebook's future changes to those permission settings, nor what the OP's business is going to do when/if it has more access to my information than it used to have.
- dolphenstein 13y ago
  You can remove the app. Its not permissions for life.
  - daave 13y ago
    That does nothing to prevent the app from retaining the information they obtained using the Facebook API during the time they were authorized (yes it's against the TOS to do so, but it's completely unenforceable).
    - mccolin 13y ago
      But the information they would retain would be the same information they'd have if you'd signed up with email and manually entered information.
      - mayank 13y ago
        Not really, basic permissions on facebook includes your friend list.
      - DougWebb 13y ago
        That's not true at all. If I enter information manually, then the site has exactly the information I've chosen to give it, no more and no less, until I decide to provide more. That is most likely not the same information I've shared through Facebook. But if the site gathers information from my Facebook account, then it gets whatever Facebook chooses to give it; the choice is not under my control. If Facebook had a history of strong privacy protection and strict opt-in policy to information sharing, this wouldn't be so bad. But since Facebook has the completely opposite history, including Zuck coming right out and saying that he would prefer all Facebook user info to be shared, I'm not going to trust Facebook to keep whatever I want private private.
rhizome 13y ago
"Basic information" on Facebook includes your friendlist. https://www.facebook.com/about/privacy/your-info-on-other https://www.facebook.com/about/privacy/your-info-on-other

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