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I'm finding it hard to think up ways that this differentiates itself enough from Foundation or Bootstrap to be useful -- and your website isn't providing me any

I'm finding it hard to think up ways that this differentiates itself enough from Foundation or Bootstrap to be useful -- and your website isn't providing me any reason why as well. Compare to http://twitter.github.io/bootstrap/ http://twitter.github.io/bootstrap/ and http://foundation.zurb.com/ http://foundation.zurb.com/, which list some benefits right on the page -- you need people to instantly understand why they should use your framework over another css framework. Also, make sure your demo pages represent responsiveness well -- I resized my browser on your mobile demo page and the tab bar ended up becoming nothingness -- perhaps some min-widths are needed?

patrickaljord 13y ago
> and your website isn't providing me any reason why as well. Looks like it's an Adobe project.
- toomuchtodo 13y ago
  Check out the contribution license for a chuckle: http://topcoat.io/dev/topcoat-cla.html http://topcoat.io/dev/topcoat-cla.html
  - yareally 13y ago
    Although Adobe is a commercial entity, that seems like pretty standard boilerplate (at least parts about making sure you're the sole owner and such). When I wanted to contribute to the android cyanogenmod project, they had a similar agreement online.
    - funthree 13y ago
      It's made with bootstrap css
      - andyhmltn 13y ago
        Shouldn't make a difference really
  - mindcrime 13y ago
    Why a chuckle? I like that they at least let you fill out the CLA online. The ASF still requires contributors to fax in a paper form (or they did last time I checked, which was when I did mine, which was, now that I think about it, some time ago, so maybe this long rambling comment is actually pointless after all...) Anyway, the point is, having an online form to submit a CLA seems like a positive step to me, if you're going to require CLAs at all. And a CLA that simply grants a perpetual, worldwide, irrevockable license to the content, as opposed to asking for a transfer of copyright ownership, doesn't seem to onerous to me. And for an Open Source project with commercial backing it is pretty commonplace. That said, we are an Open Source startup, and we don't (currently) plan to ask for a CLA from outside contributors, but just something basically saying "I license my contribution under the Apache License v2".
    - anonfunction 13y ago
      It's using bootstrap
      - acoyfellow 13y ago
        This should speak volumes about how ready the framework really is..
      - mindcrime 13y ago
        Oh, OK. I thought the "chuckle" was something about the fact that they had a CLA at all, or the content of the CLA. :-)
    - LukeShu 13y ago
      The FSF also still requires fax or mail, as of when I did mine about 1.5 years (I think) ago.
  - hmottestad 13y ago
    Haha. Checked the source, and yes, it's bootstrap. Believe in your own product and everything :D
ojr 13y ago
this framework should be seen more as a lightweight alternative to jquerymobile. While making hybrid apps with phonegap/cordova, too many people are relying too heavily on large javascript libraries which hurts performance,a small css framework like topcoat or ratchet, and a js library for architecture like angularjs, backbone.js and emberjs is a more ideal approach for hybrid apps than just throwing all of bootstrap, foundation or the sometime buggy jquerymobile I still think jquerymobile is a good approach for hybrid apps because it is easy to learn and a full-stack framework and works on a large range of devices, one can only hope that webkit renders faster in the future

patrickaljord 13y ago

> and your website isn't providing me any reason why as well. Looks like it's an Adobe project.

toomuchtodo 13y ago
Check out the contribution license for a chuckle: http://topcoat.io/dev/topcoat-cla.html http://topcoat.io/dev/topcoat-cla.html
- yareally 13y ago
  Although Adobe is a commercial entity, that seems like pretty standard boilerplate (at least parts about making sure you're the sole owner and such). When I wanted to contribute to the android cyanogenmod project, they had a similar agreement online.
  - funthree 13y ago
    It's made with bootstrap css
    - andyhmltn 13y ago
      Shouldn't make a difference really
- mindcrime 13y ago
  Why a chuckle? I like that they at least let you fill out the CLA online. The ASF still requires contributors to fax in a paper form (or they did last time I checked, which was when I did mine, which was, now that I think about it, some time ago, so maybe this long rambling comment is actually pointless after all...) Anyway, the point is, having an online form to submit a CLA seems like a positive step to me, if you're going to require CLAs at all. And a CLA that simply grants a perpetual, worldwide, irrevockable license to the content, as opposed to asking for a transfer of copyright ownership, doesn't seem to onerous to me. And for an Open Source project with commercial backing it is pretty commonplace. That said, we are an Open Source startup, and we don't (currently) plan to ask for a CLA from outside contributors, but just something basically saying "I license my contribution under the Apache License v2".
  - anonfunction 13y ago
    It's using bootstrap
    - acoyfellow 13y ago
      This should speak volumes about how ready the framework really is..
    - mindcrime 13y ago
      Oh, OK. I thought the "chuckle" was something about the fact that they had a CLA at all, or the content of the CLA. :-)
  - LukeShu 13y ago
    The FSF also still requires fax or mail, as of when I did mine about 1.5 years (I think) ago.
- hmottestad 13y ago
  Haha. Checked the source, and yes, it's bootstrap. Believe in your own product and everything :D

ojr 13y ago

this framework should be seen more as a lightweight alternative to jquerymobile. While making hybrid apps with phonegap/cordova, too many people are relying too heavily on large javascript libraries which hurts performance,a small css framework like topcoat or ratchet, and a js library for architecture like angularjs, backbone.js and emberjs is a more ideal approach for hybrid apps than just throwing all of bootstrap, foundation or the sometime buggy jquerymobile I still think jquerymobile is a good approach for hybrid apps because it is easy to learn and a full-stack framework and works on a large range of devices, one can only hope that webkit renders faster in the future