No, I don't tell them to start with HTML at all. That's not programming, that's markup/text formatting. I do in fact tell them to start with Lisp, Scheme more

No, I don't tell them to start with HTML at all. That's not programming, that's markup/text formatting. I do in fact tell them to start with Lisp, Scheme more precisely. Best learning language available [1]. Real learning is about understanding the underlying concepts and being able to reapply them in different contexts. That's what Lisp/Scheme (and C for imperative concepts and memory management) does for learning programming, and drawing does for learning design. [1]: http://www.trollope.org/scheme.html http://www.trollope.org/scheme.html