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I see this comment every time somebody posts a social product on HN, and I'm not sure why. It adds no value to the discussion, and isn't even good feedback. The

I see this comment every time somebody posts a social product on HN, and I'm not sure why. It adds no value to the discussion, and isn't even good feedback. The number of people looking to socialize but don't have a FB account is small enough that requiring FB for an MVP is perfectly reasonable. If the platform takes off, the OP can add their own login system as well. By refusing to have a Facebook account, you have willingly chosen to avoid a large portion of the web's social layer. Don't complain when you can't use a social product then.

josephhardin 13y ago
It's not that we don't have a facebook account, but rather that we don't want to have another app tangled in with all of our facebook data.
- guptaneil 13y ago
  That is a different concern, and is expressed in the current top comment (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5781522 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5781522), which I upvoted. The comment that I replied to only bemoaned the assumption that they have a FB account. I think that is a perfectly reasonable assumption. Now, whether the product provides enough value for me to want to give them my Facebook details is a different question.
fusiongyro 13y ago
These reasons are really excuses. HN probably has a higher proportion of people who have personally rejected Facebook. If you post your MVP here and it requires an FB login, you can expect these not-particularly-constructive responses. A number of us are programmers and have some sense that the amount of labor being saved by using FB for authentication versus custom code is not significant enough to be the real reason for using FB login, as opposed to a long-term plan for using the integration for other purposes.
bitwize 13y ago
If you provide an alternative way to socialize but require a Facebook login, it's kind of like releasing a video game but requiring people to log into World of Warcraft to play it.
mainguy 13y ago
I agree, (apologies for me too response).

josephhardin 13y ago

It's not that we don't have a facebook account, but rather that we don't want to have another app tangled in with all of our facebook data.

guptaneil 13y ago
That is a different concern, and is expressed in the current top comment (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5781522 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5781522), which I upvoted. The comment that I replied to only bemoaned the assumption that they have a FB account. I think that is a perfectly reasonable assumption. Now, whether the product provides enough value for me to want to give them my Facebook details is a different question.

fusiongyro 13y ago

These reasons are really excuses. HN probably has a higher proportion of people who have personally rejected Facebook. If you post your MVP here and it requires an FB login, you can expect these not-particularly-constructive responses. A number of us are programmers and have some sense that the amount of labor being saved by using FB for authentication versus custom code is not significant enough to be the real reason for using FB login, as opposed to a long-term plan for using the integration for other purposes.

bitwize 13y ago

If you provide an alternative way to socialize but require a Facebook login, it's kind of like releasing a video game but requiring people to log into World of Warcraft to play it.

mainguy 13y ago

I agree, (apologies for me too response).