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No, normal engines cannot run using CNG, without experiencing extensive wear and tear. Also, I think you'll find that the cost of things in Eastern Europe is c

No, normal engines cannot run using CNG, without experiencing extensive wear and tear. Also, I think you'll find that the cost of things in Eastern Europe is commensurate with their earnings. You can't compare the cost of things there with the cost of things in America, just like you can't compare the cost of a home in India vs. the cost of a home in San Fransisco.

VLM 13y ago
"No, normal engines cannot run using CNG, without experiencing extensive wear and tear." Well, that's a new once, since everything I've ever heard is the exact opposite. I know propane conversions run forever.
- gngeal 13y ago
  CNG is methane, and propane is propane.
- stonemetal 13y ago
  http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/how-to/maintenance/should-you-convert-your-car-to-natural-gas http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/how-to/maintenance/shou... The lower-pressure gas travels to the engine, Chrysler's flex-fuel-capable Pentastar V-6. A flex-fuel engine is important, since it has hardened valves and valve seats, which are necessary for CNG operation. Suggests there is something to worry about in a conversion for regular cars.
gngeal 13y ago
I believe that GP is confused a little. In Europe (at least Cental and Eastern), the gas conversions of cars are mostly of the LPG variety. I haven't seen a gas pump without LPG for a long time. I'm unaware of any CNG conversions around here, however.
PeterisP 13y ago
Ok, I was thinking about gas as in LPG, not CNG. But cost of things nowadays is not commensurate with earnings, and you definitely can compare cost of things (not food, services or homes, though). Stuff is produced globally, consumed globally and priced globally - the same globalized physical item, regardless if it's a Honda Civic engine, an iPad or a commodity part #12345AB, can be easily compared across the world - it's all made in the same place anyway, shipping costs are comparably tiny, and the USA will usually be the second cheapest place to buy it, right after the actual country of origin; due to economy of scale and tax differences. If I can buy a physical global-commodity nonperishable item for $x, then it is almost always available in USA for 80%-90% of that, I've not seen any significant counterexamples other than custom hand-made stuff. The wholesale price of a pallet of LPG conversion kits as coming from the factory in China or Indonesia would be nearly the same for USA, Somalia, Switzerland or Argentina - and there's not enough labor involved to justify a $10.000 markup on that unless $500/h lawyers would be doing the installation.

VLM 13y ago

"No, normal engines cannot run using CNG, without experiencing extensive wear and tear." Well, that's a new once, since everything I've ever heard is the exact opposite. I know propane conversions run forever.

gngeal 13y ago
CNG is methane, and propane is propane.
stonemetal 13y ago
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/how-to/maintenance/should-you-convert-your-car-to-natural-gas http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/how-to/maintenance/shou... The lower-pressure gas travels to the engine, Chrysler's flex-fuel-capable Pentastar V-6. A flex-fuel engine is important, since it has hardened valves and valve seats, which are necessary for CNG operation. Suggests there is something to worry about in a conversion for regular cars.

gngeal 13y ago

I believe that GP is confused a little. In Europe (at least Cental and Eastern), the gas conversions of cars are mostly of the LPG variety. I haven't seen a gas pump without LPG for a long time. I'm unaware of any CNG conversions around here, however.

PeterisP 13y ago

Ok, I was thinking about gas as in LPG, not CNG. But cost of things nowadays is not commensurate with earnings, and you definitely can compare cost of things (not food, services or homes, though). Stuff is produced globally, consumed globally and priced globally - the same globalized physical item, regardless if it's a Honda Civic engine, an iPad or a commodity part #12345AB, can be easily compared across the world - it's all made in the same place anyway, shipping costs are comparably tiny, and the USA will usually be the second cheapest place to buy it, right after the actual country of origin; due to economy of scale and tax differences. If I can buy a physical global-commodity nonperishable item for $x, then it is almost always available in USA for 80%-90% of that, I've not seen any significant counterexamples other than custom hand-made stuff. The wholesale price of a pallet of LPG conversion kits as coming from the factory in China or Indonesia would be nearly the same for USA, Somalia, Switzerland or Argentina - and there's not enough labor involved to justify a $10.000 markup on that unless $500/h lawyers would be doing the installation.