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> Stupid, yes. But I think it is likely that the school has a real legal barrier to sharing the survey. It could be. It could also be that the people who dream
by readme 13y ago
> Stupid, yes. But I think it is likely that the school has a real legal barrier to sharing the survey.
It could be. It could also be that the people who dreamed up this survey saw that legal barrier as a convenience. You can administer an unfair and potentially useless, invasive, survey, to your students, AND you have a "reason" not to tell the media, too! Had I been a student at this school, I would have put my survey directly in the trash.
The idea that a publically funded school is passing out surveys to students, and we cannot read them, makes me rage. If this doesn't anger you, then something is wrong. The reason is irrelevant, they should have thought about that before buying the survey.
When tyranny comes it is not going to introduce itself. No one is going to hand you a pamphlet, entitled: "Your rights, and lack thereof" and roll out the details of how they will all be taken away. It will do so by stealth. It will do so by employing lame excuses. It will come as a trojan horse. Increased security, no more terrorist attacks! This is all secret so we can keep the kids off drugs!
The road to hell was paved with good intentions.
This teacher is a hero.
- rdtsc 13y ago> The idea that a publically funded school is passing out surveys to students, and we cannot read them, makes me rage. I I bet all that was done was done under the public guise of "protecting the children" (then again what isn't these days...). Privately all that was done was to protect the behinds of the administrator in case some kid does something "crazy" and the school is sued or criticized. They want to have something to point to and say "Aha but we did everything we could, see...! we hired professionals in the field to find troubled teens, if they couldn't don't blame us". Simple as that. That is the reason there are so many bullshit business consulting companies. It lets those implementing risky and unsound/unpopular idea to go and point their finger to and say "see we hired professional and they agreed with us, these are world class consultants, if they couldn't predict failure, how could you blame us, simple administrators/executives/board of directors..." stuff like that. It is all basically about having a scapegoat in the end.
- res0nat0r 13y agoThe test is most likely private IP, so they are restricted from sharing the contents: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_testing#Test_security http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_testing#Test_secu...
- btilly 13y agoNever blame on malice what can be blamed on incompetence. In this case my capacity for outrage is exhausted. I've been through too many permutations of this particular type of outrage that this is in line with my expectations. And yes, if the survey is as described, the teacher should be commended. Not punished. But that's out of my hands, though if someone gives me someone to email, I will do so.
- readme 13y agoMalice and incompetence are equally dangerous and harmful.
- jlgreco 13y agoExactly, we pursue drunk drivers even if they never meant any harm. Mens rea is not universally required.
- saraid216 13y agoAnd this is also why we fire programmers who create bugs. ...wait.
- jlgreco 13y ago"And this is why we draw and quarter drunk drivers" ....wait Of course we don't draw and quarter drunk drivers. Just because an offense does not require mens rea does not mean that we throw out all sense of proportional punishment. Firing programmers for creating bugs (an offense without mens rea) is massively disproportionate, which is why we don't do it (at least until the severity and frequency of the bugs becomes unreasonable and other corrective options have been expended.)
- saraid216 13y ago> (an offense without mens rea) It's as if we don't know that it was malicious and recognize that, just perhaps, we should ascribe incompetence first.