As a guy, most of the time I feel rather embarrassed by suggestions on how to get more women into programming. The ideas tend to be so naive or full of prejudic

As a guy, most of the time I feel rather embarrassed by suggestions on how to get more women into programming. The ideas tend to be so naive or full of prejudice. I think that programming should be taught early in school. Not to become proficient with any language or so, but to understand computation at some fundamental level. Alan Kay probably have some very good ideas for how to run such classes. As it is now, some guys really did get started with programming at the age of 5, or other single digit age, and by the time "ordinary people" reach university age and meet programming, these guys with 10 years of programming pretty much dominate the classes and mess them up. Try being a newbie in any field and surround yourself with people that have 5000h of experience that give you dumb stares.