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> And where is the need for this in Europe? Where is the poverty? Well southern states are in a pickle and there but there are problems brewing practically eve
by Ygg2 13y ago
> And where is the need for this in Europe? Where is the poverty?
Well southern states are in a pickle and there but there are problems brewing practically everywhere PIGS and non-PIGS alike.
Thing is in part southern states aren't only to blame for their own problems. In general case, without the euro, they could let their currency take a dive and become a better opportunity to invest. However while they have Euro and have strong economies like Germany tied to the Euro, the Euro won't sink enough for them to be profitable and whenever it does sink, it just makes Germany more concurrent than them in the global market. Their industries simply can't match Germany's and their currencies can't adapt.
According to OECD in 2011. here are some statistics people worked yearly on average: Germans 1413 hrs, South Koreans - 2090 hrs, Greeks - 2023 hrs. Of course statistics can be deceiving and some jobs might have been in buerocracy, or less efficient than in advanced countries, but I don't think it's possible to generate all that extra time solely from pushing papers around.
Scandinavia is also experiencing a crisis of sorts, with inequality rising and riots breaking out like the last one in Stolkholm. Though they are for a different reason.
> South East Europe is (roughly speaking) comprised of Romas, of the elderly people and of what is left of rural population
True, but this is mostly due to the fact that technical people that had skills/knowledge emigrated to western contries (like Germany, UK, US) or Scandinavia. Western countries have in a way been exporting their unemployment to South-eastern countries. Why this is important, when people finish their work (i.e. retire, they take their western pensions to their hometown, where you can live off it decently).
- flexie 13y agoIn spite of the crisis, the Mediterranean countries are among the wealthiest in Europe: http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/poor-germany-it-is-time-for-a-debate-on-euro-crisis-burden-sharing-a-894398.html http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/poor-germany-it-i... As for Scandinavians, I can assure you they aren't going to bed hungry.
- Ygg2 13y agoI think I've saw that diagram, that's only half the picture I remembered. Here is the other half: http://www.voxeu.org/article/are-germans-really-poorer-spaniards-italians-and-greeks?quicktabs_tabbed_recent_articles_block=1 http://www.voxeu.org/article/are-germans-really-poorer-spani... TL;DR The gist is that first they looked at median, while mean housholds are of much greater values. Also figures seem to indicate that a lot of wealth of Germany is located in their state and not in their household ownership. Basically most German households don't have money for bailouts but Germany does.
- flexie 13y agoYou keep updating your post, so it's hard to reply to it all :-) Yes, many South Eastern Europeans have left for the US, UK, Germany, Italy, and Spain (not so many for Scandinavia, though). So far, few have returned. I am not sure it's fair to say that Western countries export their unemployment to Eastern Europe, thougn. There is also a lot of Western jobs being outsourced to Eastern Europe.