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Wrong. Do more more research.

icebraining 13y ago
According to the CDC[1], there were 613 deaths caused by unintended firearm injury in 2007. Are they wrong? [1]: http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/leadcaus10.html http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/leadcaus10.html
jpiasetz 13y ago
I'll bite "In 2007, there were 613 fatal firearm accidents in the United States, constituting 0.5% of 123,706 fatal accidents that year" [1][2] [1] http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp [2] http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/leadcaus10.html http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/leadcaus10.html
lifeguard 13y ago
31k gun deaths in 2010 http://webappa.cdc.gov/cgi-bin/broker.exe http://webappa.cdc.gov/cgi-bin/broker.exe On average, 33 gun homicides were committed each day for the years 2005-2010 -- WISQARS Injury Mortality Reports, 1999-2010
- lifeguard 13y ago
  On average, 49 gun suicides were committed each day for the years 2005-2010 (WISQARS)
- lifeguard 13y ago
  It takes a cold dead hand to earn profit from firearms in America.
- ctdonath 13y ago
  Operative word: "accidental". Deliberate murders involving guns outnumber accidental killings some 36 to 1. Note however that accidental automotive killings outnumber deliberate willful homicides using firearms. Odd that somehow the former garners little public concern.
kstenerud 13y ago
In 2011 there were 851 deaths due to accidental firearm discharge, 19766 firearm suicides, and 11101 homicides by firearm. Source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr61/nvsr61_06.pdf http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr61/nvsr61_06.pdf In Milwaukee, 76% of homicide victims had prior arrests/citations, and 90% of suspects had priors. Source: http://city.milwaukee.gov/ImageLibrary/Groups/cityHRC/reports/2011Reportv6.pdf http://city.milwaukee.gov/ImageLibrary/Groups/cityHRC/report...
- hga 13y ago
  WTF??? Note the year before, it was 606, which is where it's been for a while. It wasn't as high as 851 in the early 80s, when the population was nearly 1/3 lower as well as the number of guns owned. Something is wrong with one of these two statistics. Besides the discontinuity, I seriously doubt we in the gun community wouldn't have noticed a 30% increase in the number of accidental gun fatalities. Note, I'm not saying this preliminary 2011 number is wrong, just that I suspect something other than the real rate of accidents changed. Hmmm, there's not even any external event that would account for a 2010 to 2011 increase (i.e. the major spikes in purchasing were after Obama was first elected and after Newtown, things were back to something like "normal" in 2011 although sales just kept going up and up year to year each month). ADDED: As those major increases in population and guns owned occurred, we worked really hard to get the accident rate down. Mandatory hunter safety courses, a general emphasis on safety in the now larger self-defense area, etc. etc. etc. The rate is still down due to the population increase, but....

According to the CDC[1], there were 613 deaths caused by unintended firearm injury in 2007. Are they wrong? [1]: http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/leadcaus10.html http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/leadcaus10.html

jpiasetz 13y ago

I'll bite "In 2007, there were 613 fatal firearm accidents in the United States, constituting 0.5% of 123,706 fatal accidents that year" [1][2] [1] http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp [2] http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/leadcaus10.html http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/leadcaus10.html

lifeguard 13y ago

31k gun deaths in 2010 http://webappa.cdc.gov/cgi-bin/broker.exe http://webappa.cdc.gov/cgi-bin/broker.exe On average, 33 gun homicides were committed each day for the years 2005-2010 -- WISQARS Injury Mortality Reports, 1999-2010

lifeguard 13y ago
On average, 49 gun suicides were committed each day for the years 2005-2010 (WISQARS)
lifeguard 13y ago
It takes a cold dead hand to earn profit from firearms in America.
ctdonath 13y ago
Operative word: "accidental". Deliberate murders involving guns outnumber accidental killings some 36 to 1. Note however that accidental automotive killings outnumber deliberate willful homicides using firearms. Odd that somehow the former garners little public concern.

kstenerud 13y ago

In 2011 there were 851 deaths due to accidental firearm discharge, 19766 firearm suicides, and 11101 homicides by firearm. Source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr61/nvsr61_06.pdf http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr61/nvsr61_06.pdf In Milwaukee, 76% of homicide victims had prior arrests/citations, and 90% of suspects had priors. Source: http://city.milwaukee.gov/ImageLibrary/Groups/cityHRC/reports/2011Reportv6.pdf http://city.milwaukee.gov/ImageLibrary/Groups/cityHRC/report...

hga 13y ago
WTF??? Note the year before, it was 606, which is where it's been for a while. It wasn't as high as 851 in the early 80s, when the population was nearly 1/3 lower as well as the number of guns owned. Something is wrong with one of these two statistics. Besides the discontinuity, I seriously doubt we in the gun community wouldn't have noticed a 30% increase in the number of accidental gun fatalities. Note, I'm not saying this preliminary 2011 number is wrong, just that I suspect something other than the real rate of accidents changed. Hmmm, there's not even any external event that would account for a 2010 to 2011 increase (i.e. the major spikes in purchasing were after Obama was first elected and after Newtown, things were back to something like "normal" in 2011 although sales just kept going up and up year to year each month). ADDED: As those major increases in population and guns owned occurred, we worked really hard to get the accident rate down. Mandatory hunter safety courses, a general emphasis on safety in the now larger self-defense area, etc. etc. etc. The rate is still down due to the population increase, but....