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Ask HN: Python web programming without a framework?
I have some experience with Python scripting, but have only created web apps with PHP. I do NOT want to use a framework due to a few problems it may cause. So can I use Python to create web apps without a framework? Is it worth it?
- taddeimania 13y agoNo its not worth it. The frameworks exist because many smart people agree that it isnt smart. Also what problems do you think a framework would cause?
- cyberpanther 13y agoIf you don't want to use a framework then you should use a micro framework like Flask: http://flask.pocoo.org/ http://flask.pocoo.org/ This is essentially gives you the tools to get started and not much else. You don't want to have to reinvent protocols like Wsgi in order to run fast python code.
- PythonDeveloper 13y agoFlask is very small, unobtrusive, and makes it's darn easy to stand up a website. I personally love it.
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- digitalWestie 13y agoInteresting, what problems are you trying to avoid?
- dynamic99 13y agoNot problems so to say. I don't want to have to work around a framework or have one get in the way. I would rather redo the work, knowing 100% what every line of code in my app is doing. Plus, large frameworks like Django don't even look like Python at times.
- grey413 13y agoSimply put, python doesn't have any (non-terrible) built-in capacity for mapping HTTP requests to code like PHP does. At their core, python web frameworks are all about adding that capacity to the language. Full stack frameworks like Django go on to add a lot more, but the simpler frameworks are all about the request to code mapping, like bare PHP is. If you're intent on understanding 100% of your codebase, you should consider one of the single-file frameworks, like Bottle or Flask, and spend some time reading and understanding their code.
- venomsnake 13y agoOkay - as a person that recently made the transition: Flask,Jinja2 + bootstrap + learn python functools.wraps Flask just makes the dispatch and routing. Jinja templates are very close to smarty. You can make a site runing in a second. Also a benefit of using flask is that you have ready WSGI app that you can put on gevent or tornado. If some of your output is prematurely truncated if you are behind HAProxy - check tornado keep alive settings. (not relevant but took me 2 days to figure it out)