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The USA is going to lock him and up in the tortuous federal supermax prison no matter what age he is, international outrage be damned. If Abduwali knew what he

by rms 18y ago

The USA is going to lock him and up in the tortuous federal supermax prison no matter what age he is, international outrage be damned. If Abduwali knew what he was in for he wouldn't have been smiling for the cameras. I would take life in Somalia over ADX without hesitation.

tokenadult 18y ago
I assume you mean "lock him up," and, yes, I would expect the defendant to end up doing a long prison sentence here in the United States, after a trial and a vigorous defense.
mahmud 18y ago
Offer them a lottery to live in American prisons and I can get you enough Somali youth to fill the justice system up in a weekend. The American tough guys I have seen are pampered Care Bears compared to the Somali "Moryan"; they go for days without food, running on Qat, cigarettes and methamphetamines. Completely irrational, for example, it's not unusual for a moryan to attack you with a knife so he can take your gun.
- rms 18y ago
  ADX is not your average American prison. http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/03/30/090330fa_fact_gawande http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/03/30/090330fa_fact_...
  - tokenadult 18y ago
    Very informative article, especially the international comparisons. Thanks.
gojomo 18y ago
Why would he be locked up in supermax? They can link him to one armed hijacking, during which the only people seriously injured were his confederates (who were killed). I don't know exactly the charges he'll be subject to, but according to the calculator at http://sentencing.us http://sentencing.us , a robbery with firearm discharge and restraint of a person, but with 'acceptance of responsibility' would get 6-7.5 years, and less with a rapid guilty plea. I imagine time served could be even shorter. The piracy is a shocking issue, but the threat of a single teenage lackey isn't going to justify a draconian sentence.
- rms 18y ago
  4/5 of the 5 charges he is facing have potential life sentences, such as piracy, hostage taking, and various conspiracy charges.

by rms 18y ago

tokenadult 18y ago

I assume you mean "lock him up," and, yes, I would expect the defendant to end up doing a long prison sentence here in the United States, after a trial and a vigorous defense.

mahmud 18y ago

Offer them a lottery to live in American prisons and I can get you enough Somali youth to fill the justice system up in a weekend. The American tough guys I have seen are pampered Care Bears compared to the Somali "Moryan"; they go for days without food, running on Qat, cigarettes and methamphetamines. Completely irrational, for example, it's not unusual for a moryan to attack you with a knife so he can take your gun.

rms 18y ago
ADX is not your average American prison. http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/03/30/090330fa_fact_gawande http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/03/30/090330fa_fact_...
- tokenadult 18y ago
  Very informative article, especially the international comparisons. Thanks.

gojomo 18y ago

Why would he be locked up in supermax? They can link him to one armed hijacking, during which the only people seriously injured were his confederates (who were killed). I don't know exactly the charges he'll be subject to, but according to the calculator at http://sentencing.us http://sentencing.us , a robbery with firearm discharge and restraint of a person, but with 'acceptance of responsibility' would get 6-7.5 years, and less with a rapid guilty plea. I imagine time served could be even shorter. The piracy is a shocking issue, but the threat of a single teenage lackey isn't going to justify a draconian sentence.

rms 18y ago
4/5 of the 5 charges he is facing have potential life sentences, such as piracy, hostage taking, and various conspiracy charges.