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Terminal. Vim. I doubt that we need to intellectualize this much. Otto Neurath and the Logical Positivists pretty much planned this. Design is now in the age o

Terminal. Vim. I doubt that we need to intellectualize this much. Otto Neurath and the Logical Positivists pretty much planned this. Design is now in the age of Visual Statistics: http://www.gerdarntz.org/content/gerd-arntz http://www.gerdarntz.org/content/gerd-arntz -- or from another perspective, "Content is King." Flickr and Kippt are now the Same Thing: http://imgur.com/iar7Bgn,t8cnZA3,2lXFz4a http://imgur.com/iar7Bgn,t8cnZA3,2lXFz4a Even that URL has their design suggested in its syntax. Imgur too. Kippt arguably has better engineering talent.

GuiA 13y ago
You seem to be knowledgeable in that history of design/art topic. Any book recommendations?
- wittysense 13y ago
  1. [Visual Grammar](http://books.google.com/books/about/VISUAL_GRAMMAR.html?id=wewfi7MX4goC http://books.google.com/books/about/VISUAL_GRAMMAR.html?id=w...) by Christian Leborg 2. [Emotional Design: Why We Love (or Hate) Everyday Things](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0465051359/ http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0465051359/) by Don Norman 3. [The Elements of Typographic Style](http://www.amazon.com/Elements-Typographic-Style-Robert-Bringhurst/dp/0881791326 http://www.amazon.com/Elements-Typographic-Style-Robert-Brin...) by Robert Bringhurst 4. [Grid Systems](http://www.amazon.com/Systems-Graphic-Systeme-Visuele-Gestaltung/dp/3721201450/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1349151482&sr=1-2&keywords=joseph+grid http://www.amazon.com/Systems-Graphic-Systeme-Visuele-Gestal...) by Josef Muller-Brockmann 5. [Ordering Disorder: Grid Principles for Web Design](http://www.amazon.com/Ordering-Disorder-Principles-Design-Voices/dp/0321703537?tag=httpembedly-20 http://www.amazon.com/Ordering-Disorder-Principles-Design-Vo...) by Khoi Vinh 6. [Why Customers Really Buy: Uncovering the Emotional Triggers That Drive Sales](http://www.amazon.com/Why-Customers-Really-Buy-Uncovering/dp/1601630417 http://www.amazon.com/Why-Customers-Really-Buy-Uncovering/dp...) by Linda Goodman (I've had the pleasure of meeting her and overhearing her office conversation during my daily tasks at the office in Houston, where she worked for a spell. Incredibly sharp, and it is clear that her principles exposed in this book are thorough-going in her interactions with people. I think it would be important to apply her research to Lean methodologies, building Features only around Emotional Triggers. This is what we are aiming at, but I am making this connection right now, I believe, in saying this.) 7. [Contextual Design: Defining Customer-Centered Systems](http://www.amazon.com/Contextual-Design-Customer-Centered-Interactive-Technologies/dp/1558604111 http://www.amazon.com/Contextual-Design-Customer-Centered-In...) by Hugh Beyer, Karen Holtzblatt
wildgift 13y ago
The split between content and design is false. It just is. Typographers sometimes need to rewrite copy (or request one) to fit. Photos need to be cropped or scaled, or new ones chosen. Some kinds of writing or art really demand a specific color scheme, or even a specific layout, to have a desired effect.
- wittysense 13y ago
  I'm inclined to agree that most, if not all, binaries are false, and like so I thought I was saying that "Content is King" is another way of saying, but from a different general perspective, "Design is Visual Statistics"; or at least this is my assertion. As unclear as it may be, I'm not sure it says that content and design have a split between them. At the same time, it's not exactly clear to me that you are not attacking a strawman. - Content can be derivable, re-formatted, re-producible, summarized, re-usable. - Design can be derivable, re-formattable, re-producible, summarizable, re-usable. (Skeumorphs are obviously noise and prevent us from seeing the inherent content-properties of design itself: like the concept of the "module" as a form of content developers find uniquely interesting. And such aesthetic gestures distract us from the content. Grid design, as one approach, entails less noise; however, incurs the problematic of suffocating content in terms of priority. Flat design designates that the design adapt to the content as a first principle, in some fashion. Whatever the case we are in the age where design is visual statistics. Over time, our designs are more indicative of the way our cognitive systems structure the world rather than the way we project our aesthetic values.) In fact, I am saying that design and content are the same thing, and not that they are different things... Only that which is king is worthy of summarization (the sign).
primitur 13y ago
For every vim, there is a Kai's Power Tools. What people need to know about the user interface is that the interface itself doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is what does the user think, and does she: USE IT?

GuiA 13y ago

You seem to be knowledgeable in that history of design/art topic. Any book recommendations?

wittysense 13y ago
1. [Visual Grammar](http://books.google.com/books/about/VISUAL_GRAMMAR.html?id=wewfi7MX4goC http://books.google.com/books/about/VISUAL_GRAMMAR.html?id=w...) by Christian Leborg 2. [Emotional Design: Why We Love (or Hate) Everyday Things](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0465051359/ http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0465051359/) by Don Norman 3. [The Elements of Typographic Style](http://www.amazon.com/Elements-Typographic-Style-Robert-Bringhurst/dp/0881791326 http://www.amazon.com/Elements-Typographic-Style-Robert-Brin...) by Robert Bringhurst 4. [Grid Systems](http://www.amazon.com/Systems-Graphic-Systeme-Visuele-Gestaltung/dp/3721201450/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1349151482&sr=1-2&keywords=joseph+grid http://www.amazon.com/Systems-Graphic-Systeme-Visuele-Gestal...) by Josef Muller-Brockmann 5. [Ordering Disorder: Grid Principles for Web Design](http://www.amazon.com/Ordering-Disorder-Principles-Design-Voices/dp/0321703537?tag=httpembedly-20 http://www.amazon.com/Ordering-Disorder-Principles-Design-Vo...) by Khoi Vinh 6. [Why Customers Really Buy: Uncovering the Emotional Triggers That Drive Sales](http://www.amazon.com/Why-Customers-Really-Buy-Uncovering/dp/1601630417 http://www.amazon.com/Why-Customers-Really-Buy-Uncovering/dp...) by Linda Goodman (I've had the pleasure of meeting her and overhearing her office conversation during my daily tasks at the office in Houston, where she worked for a spell. Incredibly sharp, and it is clear that her principles exposed in this book are thorough-going in her interactions with people. I think it would be important to apply her research to Lean methodologies, building Features only around Emotional Triggers. This is what we are aiming at, but I am making this connection right now, I believe, in saying this.) 7. [Contextual Design: Defining Customer-Centered Systems](http://www.amazon.com/Contextual-Design-Customer-Centered-Interactive-Technologies/dp/1558604111 http://www.amazon.com/Contextual-Design-Customer-Centered-In...) by Hugh Beyer, Karen Holtzblatt

wildgift 13y ago

The split between content and design is false. It just is. Typographers sometimes need to rewrite copy (or request one) to fit. Photos need to be cropped or scaled, or new ones chosen. Some kinds of writing or art really demand a specific color scheme, or even a specific layout, to have a desired effect.

wittysense 13y ago
I'm inclined to agree that most, if not all, binaries are false, and like so I thought I was saying that "Content is King" is another way of saying, but from a different general perspective, "Design is Visual Statistics"; or at least this is my assertion. As unclear as it may be, I'm not sure it says that content and design have a split between them. At the same time, it's not exactly clear to me that you are not attacking a strawman. - Content can be derivable, re-formatted, re-producible, summarized, re-usable. - Design can be derivable, re-formattable, re-producible, summarizable, re-usable. (Skeumorphs are obviously noise and prevent us from seeing the inherent content-properties of design itself: like the concept of the "module" as a form of content developers find uniquely interesting. And such aesthetic gestures distract us from the content. Grid design, as one approach, entails less noise; however, incurs the problematic of suffocating content in terms of priority. Flat design designates that the design adapt to the content as a first principle, in some fashion. Whatever the case we are in the age where design is visual statistics. Over time, our designs are more indicative of the way our cognitive systems structure the world rather than the way we project our aesthetic values.) In fact, I am saying that design and content are the same thing, and not that they are different things... Only that which is king is worthy of summarization (the sign).

primitur 13y ago

For every vim, there is a Kai's Power Tools. What people need to know about the user interface is that the interface itself doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is what does the user think, and does she: USE IT?