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I thought informed people knew by now that the public narrative regarding fast and furious was completely fabricated? I can't recall the article off the top of

I thought informed people knew by now that the public narrative regarding fast and furious was completely fabricated? I can't recall the article off the top of my head, but it has long been shown that this operation was in fact not the policy of the DOJ, but that bureaucratic nonsense and politics at the state level actually prevented the agents on the field from intercepting the guns.

hga 13y ago
Informed people know the BATF never made any attempt to track the guns whatsoever (unlike the previous Boooosh "Wide Receiver" where they put tracking and transmitting devices in the stocks of the guns, but abandoned the effort after about 200 guns since the approach wasn't working). There's some telling emails that have surfaced that indicate the sole purpose was to generate more statistics about guns of American origin fueling the drug war, there's also indications this was supplying one faction, the Sinaloa Cartel, since their opponents, Los Zetas, are by far the most dangerous and a potential existential threat to the Mexican government). And all during this period Team Obama were telling lies about the fraction of guns that fuel the drug war down south that come from civilian US sources, trying to make a case for more gun control in the US, and illegally doing so by ordering gun shops to report multiple rifle sales.
- hackinthebochs 13y ago
  This sounds like a very elaborate conspiracy theory. Do you have any facts to back it up?
  - hga 13y ago
    A vast, right wing conspiracy that extends all the way to the Emmy awards committee (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/sharyl-attkisson-91871.html http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/sharyl-attkisson-91871...): "In February 2011, [CBS reporter Sharyl] Attkisson wrote a landmark report about the Fast and Furious gun-walking scandal, which earned her an Emmy award. Months later, she went on Ingraham’s radio show and said that officials from both the White House and the Justice Department had yelled and screamed at her because of her report."

hga 13y ago

Informed people know the BATF never made any attempt to track the guns whatsoever (unlike the previous Boooosh "Wide Receiver" where they put tracking and transmitting devices in the stocks of the guns, but abandoned the effort after about 200 guns since the approach wasn't working). There's some telling emails that have surfaced that indicate the sole purpose was to generate more statistics about guns of American origin fueling the drug war, there's also indications this was supplying one faction, the Sinaloa Cartel, since their opponents, Los Zetas, are by far the most dangerous and a potential existential threat to the Mexican government). And all during this period Team Obama were telling lies about the fraction of guns that fuel the drug war down south that come from civilian US sources, trying to make a case for more gun control in the US, and illegally doing so by ordering gun shops to report multiple rifle sales.

hackinthebochs 13y ago
This sounds like a very elaborate conspiracy theory. Do you have any facts to back it up?
- hga 13y ago
  A vast, right wing conspiracy that extends all the way to the Emmy awards committee (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/sharyl-attkisson-91871.html http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/sharyl-attkisson-91871...): "In February 2011, [CBS reporter Sharyl] Attkisson wrote a landmark report about the Fast and Furious gun-walking scandal, which earned her an Emmy award. Months later, she went on Ingraham’s radio show and said that officials from both the White House and the Justice Department had yelled and screamed at her because of her report."