You can't really take much from what this guy says, to be honest. It's also extremely adversarial.[1] It depends on the individual(s), who you ask, and the phas

You can't really take much from what this guy says, to be honest. It's also extremely adversarial.[1] It depends on the individual(s), who you ask, and the phase of the moon. This type of activity isn't really representative of either side of the traditional security world. Blackhats have generally shunned "carders", and the for-profit crime groups usually use "script-kiddie" like tools. Every once in a while there is an exception, but it's mostly been the case for at least the last 20+ years that blackhat skills/status in the community is negatively correlated with theft/extortion/fraud. [1]http://www.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/news/2002/08/54400?currentPage=all http://www.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/news/2002/08/54400?cu...