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I wouldn't have called this as patent abuse, he came up with a neat idea, and applied for a patent. He didn't use it, but that doesn't invalidate that he came u

I wouldn't have called this as patent abuse, he came up with a neat idea, and applied for a patent. He didn't use it, but that doesn't invalidate that he came up with the idea, he just moved on. He hasn't sold it to anyone, he's never used it aggressively. He's being a dick now and saying "I might have to sue you!", but it's not patent abuse in the way Intellectual Ventures approaches it. Edit; Actually, I don't think it's patent abuse as much as it is good old fashioned extortion.

icebraining 13y ago
Patents aren't supposed to protect ideas.
- genwin 13y ago
  It's a process, which is patentable.
  - drucken 13y ago
    In the US and virtually only the US.
    - genwin 13y ago
      No other country matters, according to the US. If a company in another country does business in the US it can be sued in Eastern Texas (patent trolls' heaven).
genwin 13y ago
> I don't think it's patent abuse as much as it is good old fashioned extortion. Precisely. Large companies routinely employ such negotiation, as does the US gov't to an extreme. Kim Dotcom is no worse.
- mintplant 13y ago
  But then, he isn't any better for it, either. This is patent trolling, plain and simple - I don't see why people are rallying around him in this.
  - genwin 13y ago
    Maybe for the same reason the masses rally around companies and gov'ts that do it.
  - resu_nimda 13y ago
    Because he is The Little Guy, and there is a massive and highly publicized campaign by the US government against him. This is him doing what he can to fight back. I think it says something that he never did anything with the patent until now, I believe that he has good intentions and no desire to be a patent troll. Given his unique situation, and his flair for drama and unorthodoxy, I think it makes perfect sense.
    - mintplant 13y ago
      Yes, let's attempt to extort defense funds from large corporations. That will surely get them on his side. Just because he's "The Little Guy" doesn't make it any better. Holding someone hostage to raise money for a cancer research foundation wouldn't make the act itself morally justified.
      - genwin 13y ago
        Excoriate Kim Dotcom but to avoid being hypocritical make sure you do likewise for those large corporations who perfected his method.
        mintplant 13y ago
        Flip it around, and that's where I'm at. Condemn the companies that the tactic is most associated with; don't excuse Kim Dotcom for doing it, too.
dragonwriter 13y ago
> Actually, I don't think it's patent abuse as much as it is good old fashioned extortion. Seems to me that that's like saying "I don't think its criminal homicide so much as it is good old fashioned murder." Using patents to facilitate extortion is the main form of abuse that the phrase "patent abuse" is used to refer to.

icebraining 13y ago

Patents aren't supposed to protect ideas.

genwin 13y ago
It's a process, which is patentable.
- drucken 13y ago
  In the US and virtually only the US.
  - genwin 13y ago
    No other country matters, according to the US. If a company in another country does business in the US it can be sued in Eastern Texas (patent trolls' heaven).

genwin 13y ago

> I don't think it's patent abuse as much as it is good old fashioned extortion. Precisely. Large companies routinely employ such negotiation, as does the US gov't to an extreme. Kim Dotcom is no worse.

mintplant 13y ago
But then, he isn't any better for it, either. This is patent trolling, plain and simple - I don't see why people are rallying around him in this.
- genwin 13y ago
  Maybe for the same reason the masses rally around companies and gov'ts that do it.
- resu_nimda 13y ago
  Because he is The Little Guy, and there is a massive and highly publicized campaign by the US government against him. This is him doing what he can to fight back. I think it says something that he never did anything with the patent until now, I believe that he has good intentions and no desire to be a patent troll. Given his unique situation, and his flair for drama and unorthodoxy, I think it makes perfect sense.
  - mintplant 13y ago
    Yes, let's attempt to extort defense funds from large corporations. That will surely get them on his side. Just because he's "The Little Guy" doesn't make it any better. Holding someone hostage to raise money for a cancer research foundation wouldn't make the act itself morally justified.
    - genwin 13y ago
      Excoriate Kim Dotcom but to avoid being hypocritical make sure you do likewise for those large corporations who perfected his method.
      - mintplant 13y ago
        Flip it around, and that's where I'm at. Condemn the companies that the tactic is most associated with; don't excuse Kim Dotcom for doing it, too.

dragonwriter 13y ago

> Actually, I don't think it's patent abuse as much as it is good old fashioned extortion. Seems to me that that's like saying "I don't think its criminal homicide so much as it is good old fashioned murder." Using patents to facilitate extortion is the main form of abuse that the phrase "patent abuse" is used to refer to.