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But remember that much of US Greek Yogurt is Greek Yogurt + SUGAR + JAM + FRUIT = Candy.

by jerrya 13y ago

nhebb 13y ago
I'm glad you brought that up. Sweetened yogurt is one of the worst pseudo health foods on the market. Chobani's strawberry has 20 gm of sugar (4.76 tsp), and Yoplait is worse at 33 gm (7.86 tsp). That's a butt-load of sugar for such a small container.
- lawnchair_larry 13y ago
  That's an odd way to count. So fruits are bad pseudo health foods too? 8oz of pure, fresh squeezed orange juice has 22 grams of sugar. It wouldn't make sense to say that is "~5 tsp of sugar".
  - xyzzyz 13y ago
    fruit juice is indeed not very healthy, because of its enormous sugar content. you'd probably never eat for a single meal the number of oranges that go into a single orange juice glass.
  - itsybitsycoder 13y ago
    Fruit juice is not the best example of a health food. There's as much sugar in most fruit juices than there is in an equal volume of Coke [1]. When we were kids, my brother had to get caps put on all his teeth because he drank too much apple juice, and even though we brushed 2x a day, the sugar rotted his teeth. Plain fruit is better because it has more fiber and about half the sugar in a serving than the juice [2]. [1] http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-204_162-673229.html http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-204_162-673229.html [2] http://healthland.time.com/2009/08/07/calorie-counter-fruit-vs-fruit-juice/ http://healthland.time.com/2009/08/07/calorie-counter-fruit-...
  - nhebb 13y ago
    As Dr. Lustig (the "sugar is poison" guy) says, when nature delivers a poison it often provides the antidote. For fruits, the antidote is fiber. Juice removes much of that fiber. My grandmother had a seizure and was rushed to the hospital. I happened to be in the area and went to see her. When I got there, she was conscious but catatonic. I said hello to her, but she stared straight ahead, unresponsive. Her blood sugar had dropped really low, so the nurse brought in a cup of orange juice. She drank about half of it - maybe 4 oz. The nurse put the cup down, and a few seconds later my grandmother turned, looked at me, and said, "Hi Nick, what are you doing here?" I'm not trying to exaggerate, but it was like someone flipped a switch. I was amazed at how fast the sugar absorbed into her bloodstream. So I guess the point of my story is that you shouldn't underestimate the power of the sugar in an 8 oz. glass of orange juice.
- justindz 13y ago
  Hijacking for personal benefit. I'm a long time cold cereal breakfast addict. I eat the store brand equivalent of Life cereal (has actual sugar!) mostly, along with other things like apple cinnamon cheerios. I don't eat anything with a strange color that dies the milk, contains hardtack marshmallow or has a cartoon character on the box. In an effort to substitute something more nutritious and dense, I was considering trying the Greek yogurt breakfast approach for a few weeks based on some Cleveland Clinic advice I read about better breakfast habits--I don't have time to make omelettes in the morning. I'm going to be buying this stuff at the grocery store. What am I looking for? I don't like overly sweetened stuff and usually don't like fruit/yogurt. I'm also looking for the real thing. Not any non-fat crap. May add my own granola if I find it too boring over time. I've seen some that comes with honey. Are there any good "common" brands I should look for beyond reading labels? Sounds like you've looked into this and I would appreciate your and anyone else's advice before I hit the store this weekend.
  - paulyg 13y ago
    If your local supermarket has Fage get the "Total Classic". Basically stay away from anything that says 0% or 2%. If you have a Trader Joes nearby their Greek yougurt is good as well. I like granola in mine. I have also put craisins in it. Or add your own fruit at home. My faves are raspberries and strawberries.
    - ebiester 13y ago
      At that point, aren't you just adding the sugar back in? (I'm only justifying my own habits, mind you -- when I'm not eating it with dinner, I have a giant dollop of sour cherry jam that's going in.)
      - Crake 13y ago
        There's way less sugar in fruit than there is in HFCS and/or table sugar laden jam. (ex: 1 tbsp of smuckers has 12g sugar, vs approximately 0.08g of sugar per every 1 actual raspberry.) If you were to put a small dollop of jam on 1 cup of yogurt, then that'd be comparable to putting 150 actual raspberries in, at which point you'd definitely have more raspberries than yogurt to the point of hilarity/incredulity.
- Crake 13y ago
  I absolutely hate sweet food. I thought, for the longest time, that I hated yogurt, too. When I discovered real, nonsweetened yogurt, I was mad that I'd been missing out all these years. There's so damn much of the sugared crap in the yogurt aisle that I never even realized that it didn't taste like that normally.
textminer 13y ago
Why is so much of it non-fat?! The 2% milk fat Greek yogurt is so much richer, adds a trivial number of calories, and requires almost no sugar to taste "good".
- mason55 13y ago
  Because most people are poorly educated about diet. They think fat makes you fat. While fat has higher calories per gram than protein or carbs it also has a high satiety factor.
- Osmium 13y ago
  0%-fat is a lot thicker (in my experience). Nicer to eat with fruit :) Not everything low-fat has to be for health reasons!
  - wnight 13y ago
    Yeah, usually because it's thickened with gelatin. Enjoy your boiled hoof.
    - radio4fan 13y ago
      Man, you had me worried for a second. But I just googled '0% fat greek yogurt ingredients' and the top four brands (Fage, Total, Liberté and Chobani) contain only skimmed milk and bacterial cultures. Same with the brand I use here in Catalonia.
      - wnight 13y ago
        As a diet thing maybe it's bigger in North America. I'm in Canada. I'm glad, for your sake, that I was wrong here.
    - Osmium 13y ago
      Even if it did have gelatin (which it doesn't), why would that be a problem? If, as a society, we're going to kill animals for food, then I'm all for making sure we at least make full use of the animal and let nothing go to waste. Anything less than that would be doing the animal a disservice, don't you think?

But remember that much of US Greek Yogurt is Greek Yogurt + SUGAR + JAM + FRUIT = Candy.

by jerrya 13y ago

But remember that much of US Greek Yogurt is Greek Yogurt + SUGAR + JAM + FRUIT = Candy.

nhebb 13y ago

I'm glad you brought that up. Sweetened yogurt is one of the worst pseudo health foods on the market. Chobani's strawberry has 20 gm of sugar (4.76 tsp), and Yoplait is worse at 33 gm (7.86 tsp). That's a butt-load of sugar for such a small container.

lawnchair_larry 13y ago
That's an odd way to count. So fruits are bad pseudo health foods too? 8oz of pure, fresh squeezed orange juice has 22 grams of sugar. It wouldn't make sense to say that is "~5 tsp of sugar".
- xyzzyz 13y ago
  fruit juice is indeed not very healthy, because of its enormous sugar content. you'd probably never eat for a single meal the number of oranges that go into a single orange juice glass.
- itsybitsycoder 13y ago
  Fruit juice is not the best example of a health food. There's as much sugar in most fruit juices than there is in an equal volume of Coke [1]. When we were kids, my brother had to get caps put on all his teeth because he drank too much apple juice, and even though we brushed 2x a day, the sugar rotted his teeth. Plain fruit is better because it has more fiber and about half the sugar in a serving than the juice [2]. [1] http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-204_162-673229.html http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-204_162-673229.html [2] http://healthland.time.com/2009/08/07/calorie-counter-fruit-vs-fruit-juice/ http://healthland.time.com/2009/08/07/calorie-counter-fruit-...
- nhebb 13y ago
  As Dr. Lustig (the "sugar is poison" guy) says, when nature delivers a poison it often provides the antidote. For fruits, the antidote is fiber. Juice removes much of that fiber. My grandmother had a seizure and was rushed to the hospital. I happened to be in the area and went to see her. When I got there, she was conscious but catatonic. I said hello to her, but she stared straight ahead, unresponsive. Her blood sugar had dropped really low, so the nurse brought in a cup of orange juice. She drank about half of it - maybe 4 oz. The nurse put the cup down, and a few seconds later my grandmother turned, looked at me, and said, "Hi Nick, what are you doing here?" I'm not trying to exaggerate, but it was like someone flipped a switch. I was amazed at how fast the sugar absorbed into her bloodstream. So I guess the point of my story is that you shouldn't underestimate the power of the sugar in an 8 oz. glass of orange juice.
justindz 13y ago
Hijacking for personal benefit. I'm a long time cold cereal breakfast addict. I eat the store brand equivalent of Life cereal (has actual sugar!) mostly, along with other things like apple cinnamon cheerios. I don't eat anything with a strange color that dies the milk, contains hardtack marshmallow or has a cartoon character on the box. In an effort to substitute something more nutritious and dense, I was considering trying the Greek yogurt breakfast approach for a few weeks based on some Cleveland Clinic advice I read about better breakfast habits--I don't have time to make omelettes in the morning. I'm going to be buying this stuff at the grocery store. What am I looking for? I don't like overly sweetened stuff and usually don't like fruit/yogurt. I'm also looking for the real thing. Not any non-fat crap. May add my own granola if I find it too boring over time. I've seen some that comes with honey. Are there any good "common" brands I should look for beyond reading labels? Sounds like you've looked into this and I would appreciate your and anyone else's advice before I hit the store this weekend.
- paulyg 13y ago
  If your local supermarket has Fage get the "Total Classic". Basically stay away from anything that says 0% or 2%. If you have a Trader Joes nearby their Greek yougurt is good as well. I like granola in mine. I have also put craisins in it. Or add your own fruit at home. My faves are raspberries and strawberries.
  - ebiester 13y ago
    At that point, aren't you just adding the sugar back in? (I'm only justifying my own habits, mind you -- when I'm not eating it with dinner, I have a giant dollop of sour cherry jam that's going in.)
    - Crake 13y ago
      There's way less sugar in fruit than there is in HFCS and/or table sugar laden jam. (ex: 1 tbsp of smuckers has 12g sugar, vs approximately 0.08g of sugar per every 1 actual raspberry.) If you were to put a small dollop of jam on 1 cup of yogurt, then that'd be comparable to putting 150 actual raspberries in, at which point you'd definitely have more raspberries than yogurt to the point of hilarity/incredulity.
Crake 13y ago
I absolutely hate sweet food. I thought, for the longest time, that I hated yogurt, too. When I discovered real, nonsweetened yogurt, I was mad that I'd been missing out all these years. There's so damn much of the sugared crap in the yogurt aisle that I never even realized that it didn't taste like that normally.

textminer 13y ago

Why is so much of it non-fat?! The 2% milk fat Greek yogurt is so much richer, adds a trivial number of calories, and requires almost no sugar to taste "good".

mason55 13y ago
Because most people are poorly educated about diet. They think fat makes you fat. While fat has higher calories per gram than protein or carbs it also has a high satiety factor.
Osmium 13y ago
0%-fat is a lot thicker (in my experience). Nicer to eat with fruit :) Not everything low-fat has to be for health reasons!
- wnight 13y ago
  Yeah, usually because it's thickened with gelatin. Enjoy your boiled hoof.
  - radio4fan 13y ago
    Man, you had me worried for a second. But I just googled '0% fat greek yogurt ingredients' and the top four brands (Fage, Total, Liberté and Chobani) contain only skimmed milk and bacterial cultures. Same with the brand I use here in Catalonia.
    - wnight 13y ago
      As a diet thing maybe it's bigger in North America. I'm in Canada. I'm glad, for your sake, that I was wrong here.
  - Osmium 13y ago
    Even if it did have gelatin (which it doesn't), why would that be a problem? If, as a society, we're going to kill animals for food, then I'm all for making sure we at least make full use of the animal and let nothing go to waste. Anything less than that would be doing the animal a disservice, don't you think?