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tl;dr: Millennials don’t have the same view on authority from above that seems like the natural world order to older employees don't bother looking for example

tl;dr: Millennials don’t have the same view on authority from above that seems like the natural world order to older employees don't bother looking for examples of actual inappropriate behavior -- the only examples the author can come up with are text messaging instead of calling, and getting bored at boring meetings.

run4yourlives 13y ago
FTFY: Millennials don’t have the same view on authority from above that is the natural world order And therein lies the problem, I think. The world is changing, yes. The people in that world that have changed however are still very much a minority.
- milkshakes 13y ago
  I'm not sure I understand the point you're trying to make.
  - run4yourlives 13y ago
    My point is that if you want to become successful, you need to adapt to the reality that exists. The faster you learn this, the better.
    - milkshakes 13y ago
      Thank's for clarifying. I respectfully disagree that deference to the status quo, existing authority structures included, is the only path to "success". I'm not advocating going against the grain for its own sake, but I would happily argue that the process of innovation is itself rooted in a deliberate choice to reject the reality "that exists" in favor of the reality that could or even should exist. Furthermore, I'm not entirely convinced that the "reality" you are describing is in fact aligned with highly productive work environments, especially for creative and technical companies. The companies I have been exposed to the internals of along my path have all valued contribution over conformity, and focus on empowering their employees to contribute more, not nitpicking over decorum.
      - run4yourlives 13y ago
        I don't actually disagree with you at all. What I would say is this: 85% of the time, things are done in a certain way for a reason; people have discovered through experience that a particular method is best. As someone "new" to a situation (regardless of age), deference to the established norms is a requirement for success, namely because you are too ignorant to identify that 15%. I don't care how brilliant you are (or think you are) wisdom often only comes with experience, and experience takes time. Getting back to sweeping generalizations - this is something I think Millennials are particularly poor with. While for most other generations, the ability to think outside of the box is rare and prized, Millennials seem to forget that someone a lot smarter than them established the box in the first place, likely for a very good reason. We establish things like decorum - as mundane and limiting as it may seem to you - because experience has shown that a lack of expected decorum can result in conveying a poor impression where such a conveyance is not intended.

run4yourlives 13y ago

FTFY: Millennials don’t have the same view on authority from above that is the natural world order And therein lies the problem, I think. The world is changing, yes. The people in that world that have changed however are still very much a minority.

milkshakes 13y ago
I'm not sure I understand the point you're trying to make.
- run4yourlives 13y ago
  My point is that if you want to become successful, you need to adapt to the reality that exists. The faster you learn this, the better.
  - milkshakes 13y ago
    Thank's for clarifying. I respectfully disagree that deference to the status quo, existing authority structures included, is the only path to "success". I'm not advocating going against the grain for its own sake, but I would happily argue that the process of innovation is itself rooted in a deliberate choice to reject the reality "that exists" in favor of the reality that could or even should exist. Furthermore, I'm not entirely convinced that the "reality" you are describing is in fact aligned with highly productive work environments, especially for creative and technical companies. The companies I have been exposed to the internals of along my path have all valued contribution over conformity, and focus on empowering their employees to contribute more, not nitpicking over decorum.
    - run4yourlives 13y ago
      I don't actually disagree with you at all. What I would say is this: 85% of the time, things are done in a certain way for a reason; people have discovered through experience that a particular method is best. As someone "new" to a situation (regardless of age), deference to the established norms is a requirement for success, namely because you are too ignorant to identify that 15%. I don't care how brilliant you are (or think you are) wisdom often only comes with experience, and experience takes time. Getting back to sweeping generalizations - this is something I think Millennials are particularly poor with. While for most other generations, the ability to think outside of the box is rare and prized, Millennials seem to forget that someone a lot smarter than them established the box in the first place, likely for a very good reason. We establish things like decorum - as mundane and limiting as it may seem to you - because experience has shown that a lack of expected decorum can result in conveying a poor impression where such a conveyance is not intended.