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Yes. I'm not usually that fussed with privacy. Well, not as much as everyone else. But this is the thing that's stopping me wanting an Xbox One. Even if the log

Yes. I'm not usually that fussed with privacy. Well, not as much as everyone else. But this is the thing that's stopping me wanting an Xbox One. Even if the logs were never looked at or opened, it's incredibly unnerving to know there is a 24-hour 3d scan complete with video and audio sat on a server somewhere.

simba-hiiipower 13y ago
> there is a 24-hour 3d scan complete with video and audio sat on a server somewhere. i don't think that's happening. in its lowest power state, described as wake on voice, the device is listening (which is not the same as recording) for a prompt to power-on [1]. it validates what it picks-up locally on the device. only once it confirms (again, checking locally) a command to fully power-on, are other sensors enabled. [1] http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/21/4353580/kinect-always-listening-on-xbox-one-privacy-is-a-top-priority http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/21/4353580/kinect-always-liste...
- andyhmltn 13y ago
  Thanks! That's a bit better.
- uptown 13y ago
  It's not - but there's literally nothing technologically preventing it from doing that. It's one thing to put a device incapable of doing something into a room. It's something entirely different to put a device there with the promise that they won't abuse that power either by malice or error.
  - simba-hiiipower 13y ago
    yes, but that's true of many other technologies as well. and while that doesn't alleviate such concerns, i think its clearly where the market's heading and (maybe naively) am not too concerned with it.. thinning back a few years, the idea that facebook could amass such volumes of personal data based on one's digital activity sparked much the same reaction. in deciding to use their service, there's a clear tradeoff between enjoying the benefits it provides and giving-up (and trusting them with) a lot of personal data - which, naturally, has potential for abuse. technologies like this new kinect, as well as personal fitness monitors, google glass, smartwatches and other wearable technology, are just a continuation of that trend, now translated more to the physical realm. it is definitely a leap, as the data being captured is more tangible and the ability to identify one based on it more real, but its still very much the same and feels like a natural evolution as we move more towards a world where everything is connected..
  - e1ven 13y ago
    I share your concerns, but it's this also true of most laptops? I keep a piece of tape over my camera, but there is nothing physically blocking the microphone.
    - uptown 13y ago
      One User Script you may want to install prevents the HTML5 voice input from being activated. It'll prevent HTML5-based browser voice-input if that's something you want, but it's worth considering if you don't need that function. https://userscripts.org/scripts/show/110566 https://userscripts.org/scripts/show/110566

simba-hiiipower 13y ago

> there is a 24-hour 3d scan complete with video and audio sat on a server somewhere. i don't think that's happening. in its lowest power state, described as wake on voice, the device is listening (which is not the same as recording) for a prompt to power-on [1]. it validates what it picks-up locally on the device. only once it confirms (again, checking locally) a command to fully power-on, are other sensors enabled. [1] http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/21/4353580/kinect-always-listening-on-xbox-one-privacy-is-a-top-priority http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/21/4353580/kinect-always-liste...

andyhmltn 13y ago
Thanks! That's a bit better.
uptown 13y ago
It's not - but there's literally nothing technologically preventing it from doing that. It's one thing to put a device incapable of doing something into a room. It's something entirely different to put a device there with the promise that they won't abuse that power either by malice or error.
- simba-hiiipower 13y ago
  yes, but that's true of many other technologies as well. and while that doesn't alleviate such concerns, i think its clearly where the market's heading and (maybe naively) am not too concerned with it.. thinning back a few years, the idea that facebook could amass such volumes of personal data based on one's digital activity sparked much the same reaction. in deciding to use their service, there's a clear tradeoff between enjoying the benefits it provides and giving-up (and trusting them with) a lot of personal data - which, naturally, has potential for abuse. technologies like this new kinect, as well as personal fitness monitors, google glass, smartwatches and other wearable technology, are just a continuation of that trend, now translated more to the physical realm. it is definitely a leap, as the data being captured is more tangible and the ability to identify one based on it more real, but its still very much the same and feels like a natural evolution as we move more towards a world where everything is connected..
- e1ven 13y ago
  I share your concerns, but it's this also true of most laptops? I keep a piece of tape over my camera, but there is nothing physically blocking the microphone.
  - uptown 13y ago
    One User Script you may want to install prevents the HTML5 voice input from being activated. It'll prevent HTML5-based browser voice-input if that's something you want, but it's worth considering if you don't need that function. https://userscripts.org/scripts/show/110566 https://userscripts.org/scripts/show/110566