> Let's not pretend that Google's open source products in any way follow an open development process. You said "product", but you should say "project". If you

> Let's not pretend that Google's open source products in any way follow an open development process. You said "product", but you should say "project". If you want to assess the openness of the development process, look at the process itself: https://code.google.com/p/dart/wiki/Contributing https://code.google.com/p/dart/wiki/Contributing https://groups.google.com/a/dartlang.org/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/reviews https://groups.google.com/a/dartlang.org/forum/?fromgroups#!... If code reviews are happening in the open and there's a process to bring new contributors on board, that's a great start. This early in the game, you can't expect random members of the open source community to start contributing more than a dedicated team at Google. > It would be nice if Google maintained mirrors on Github and accepted pull requests and such, but I don't see that ever happening. Oh? http://github.com/google http://github.com/google https://github.com/dart-lang https://github.com/dart-lang Also, FWIW on the Go project we have more than 300 non-Google contributors and a solid core of dedicated committers. https://code.google.com/p/go/source/list https://code.google.com/p/go/source/list