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> Its definitional: if you aren't seeking the threat of state enforcement to enforce a set of mutual promises, you don't have a contract, you have a mutual set
by ahallock 13y ago
> Its definitional: if you aren't seeking the threat of state enforcement to enforce a set of mutual promises, you don't have a contract, you have a mutual set of promises that lacks the intent necessary to form a contract.
That is one definition, but not the only. And I'm sure there are creative ways to enforce contracts without State force--third-party arbitration could be an option, social pressure, etc. Most contract disputes I've been involved with have been resolved without the need for legal action. There are plenty of social dynamics that come into play.
> Enforcement of existing laws, civil and criminal, is done on a case-by-case basis by actual people; even if something creates a civil or criminal cause of action, the party (the prosecutorial authority of the state, in criminal cases) with the cause of action may choose not exercise it, and jury nullification is thing, so, largely, what you call for is the status quo.
This is true, but I don't think it's working. Looking at the current prison population, something is deeply flawed. Are most jurors even aware of jury nullification?
> If you think the specific parameters of the existing law are drawn incorrectly, you probably ought to address your specific problem rather than calling for abstract features that already exist in the current system.
Fair enough.
- baddox 13y agoI'll add: third-party arbitration is already quite common, and in many cases is very deliberately used to avoid the government alternative. The definition proposed by that commenter indicates to me that he or she is simply unaware of the existence and commonness of arbitration.
- HarryHirsch 13y agoAnywhere outside Hackernews, mandatory arbitration is considered a way to prevent trial by jury. It's safe to say that "trial by jury" got written into the constitution is because the drafters had experience with arbitration and were aware that at times it can be seriously unfair and inequitable to one of the parties.
- infinite8s 13y agoWhat do you think a representational government is except the exertion of social pressure backed by force?
- baddox 13y agoOne key difference is that the representational government's monopoly is backed by force.