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The founder has been doing this for 4 months and he is healthier than when he started. What makes you think this is a bad idea other than "waaahh they are not f
by fc2 13y ago
The founder has been doing this for 4 months and he is healthier than when he started. What makes you think this is a bad idea other than "waaahh they are not food scientists!"?
- w1ntermute 13y agoIf you think that a sample of 1 is enough to validate the safety of this substance, then you need to just stop commenting on this article. You have absolutely no idea how science works.
- fc2 13y agoIt is not a "substance". This is basically a multivitamin mixed in with some fluor, some whey protein and some olive oil. You only need common sense to validate the safety.
- DanBC 13y agoBut that's the point - they claim it's safe for anyone; that it will correct cholesterol; that it's okay if you have problems with digestion; etc. You only need common sense to realise that this single product cannot be safe for everyone. What type of flour does it contain? They say it's hypo-allergenic, so it shouldn't have any gluten in.
- scott_s 13y ago"Safe to consume along with a regular diet" is different than "safe to consume as your entire diet."
- vecinu 13y agoWow, 4 months really is a long time! I always thought drug companies were slow testing new drugs out for years! He is healthier than when he started? By what metric and for how long will that last?
- Narkov 13y agoAre you hearing what you are saying? One person with a vested interest said it works...therefore it must be good? Do you buy stuff from infomercials?
- fc2 13y agoThere's no reason why it wouldn't work. If a multivitamin works then this works too.
- w1ntermute 13y ago> If a multivitamin works then this works too. God, you are just embarrassing yourself now. Please just stop.
- fc2 13y agoVery eloquent arguments, you've thoroughly convinced me.
- scarmig 13y agoJust to be clear, you're embarrassing yourself because multivitamins are the modern equivalent of magical totems of other civilizations that we patronizingly mock. Or, to reach more into our own history, they're the modern snake oil.
- sillysaurus 13y agomultivitamins are the modern equivalent of snake oil You'll need to post some sort of citation in order to convince anyone of that.
- scott_s 13y agoStudy Finds No Benefit From Daily Multivitamin, http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/09/study-finds-no-benefit-from-daily-multivitamin/ http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/09/study-finds-no-bene... Is This the End of Popping Vitamins?, http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204644504576650980601014152.html http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297020464450457665...
- rguzman 13y agodo you think that 4 months is an adequate time scale to know all the effects of switching to this type of "diet"? humans have been eating whole foods for ~100k years.
- bfioca 13y agoit's not a "diet" it's a food (see this: http://robrhinehart.com/?p=507 http://robrhinehart.com/?p=507) Also humans had been living in caves and stick houses for 100+k years but now most of us have improved on those inventions.
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- Harj 13y agoChange your diet to anything different for that amount of time and your body will feel better. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Size_Me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Size_Me I thought we were lovers of Science on this site? I thought we believed in testing claims through evidence, not some slick marketing video. The founder has blogged in detail about the evolution of the recipe and effects on his body, http://robrhinehart.com/ http://robrhinehart.com/ (site currently appears to be down).
- DanBC 13y agoBlogging in detail is fun. It's not science. I'm disappointed to see that blog -which mean people correctly pointed out is not scientifically useful- is being used to sell this product.
- gwern 13y ago> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Size_Me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Size_Me https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Size_Me#Criticism_and_statistical_notes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Size_Me#Criticism_and_st... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_Head https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_Head https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocebo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocebo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawthorne_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawthorne_effect
- fc2 13y agoYour only argument is an argument from authority. Sorry, I'm just not impressed at all.
- chetanahuja 13y ago"Maybe Soylent is okay. Maybe. But there are well established, scientific methods to evaluate these claims. I know it tempting to want to believe the claims in the video, but they have done NONE of this!" That sounds like a pretty reasonable argument to me. Pointing out that the soylent proponent's "evidence" does not stand up to scientific scrutiny does not sound like "argument from authority".
- DanBC 13y ago> The founder has been doing this for 4 months and he is healthier than when he started. The founder claims he is healthier than when he started. That's confirmation bias. We have no way of telling because this "experiment" is not at all scientific. When he started and people pointed out just how hopeless the experiment was we were told to shut up and let him get on with it because it was only him being affected and if he wanted to do it let him go ahead. But now we see the problem - that hopeless experiment is being used to sell this product. I can point you to a range of crack pots who claim their supplement makes them feel much better. One example is all the blue people with colloidal silver. (Do a Google Images search for [colloidal silver] to see.)
- fc2 13y agoHe has posted blood test results corroborating his claim of improved health. His blog is down right now unfortunately.
- ceejayoz 13y agoCBCs and chem panels are useful for diagnosing disorders, but they're hardly something you can use to determine "oh you're healthier than your previous also-healthy state".