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The article is incorrect: there is no free tier but there is a 2 month free trial. https://www.fastmail.fm/action/signup/?type=personal&account=full‎ https://ww

by masnick 13y ago

The article is incorrect: there is no free tier but there is a 2 month free trial. https://www.fastmail.fm/action/signup/?type=personal&account=full‎ https://www.fastmail.fm/action/signup/?type=personal&acc... In terms of additional features: - Support for Sieve scripts - LOVE this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sieve_(mail_filtering_language) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sieve_(mail_filtering_language) - Way faster loading time, snapper interface - Lots more customizability (look at the display settings for an individual folder: https://files.app.net/1/79748/aXTHb4q16UPxgBvF2RCedd9jMSV2u4Op1RIz_cylUtlNJ24EMpnKkWGY0LS_B1IAlYQAK016MxTBSk_tMNIYeao_taf_GZRPR0yQj2Y4pgeDMRh_JX8q3yZVHpw0b72NseiwIhZkn1-49z_RrMft70I1MO-PxoGhU7tRQsSLTKB7xC7s1bUQvfkCctCG44BiK https://files.app.net/1/79748/aXTHb4q16UPxgBvF2RCedd9jMSV2u4...) - Some different interface features that I really like (your mileage may vary), like always showing starred messages on top for specific folders There's lots more in terms of customizability and different weird configurations they allow you to do. They've done a pretty good job of hiding the complexity for non-power users, but it's still really accessible if you're willing to read through lots of preference screens. There are some features FastMail does not have that Gmail does. The two big ones for me are undo send and composing in a new window (although you can just open the whole FastMail interface in a new tab and it only takes a second to load; opening Gmail in a new tab could take 10+ seconds in my experience). I use the FastMail web interface full time and am just as efficient, if not more, than I am with Gmail. The keyboard shortcuts are pretty much the same, so there wasn't even a learning curve.

zrail 13y ago
Does Fastmail.FM have the equivalent of the "Archive" action in Gmail? Mail.app on OS X and on iPhone seem to play well with Archive and it's not something that I really want to give up.
- masnick 13y ago
  YES! And Mail.app on OS X actually works better with FastMail's Archive than it ever did with Gmail's (in my experience). Here's a screenshot from Mail.app: https://files.app.net/1/79773/aTOWGMJ-rQ2Js_Edg-CWLi5FsLEVYq6gHDg7hoOrqEbzhj-leQKYvSOJldSlIFDWtfh7MhPL5Bd-wQWdc17X5AXlfT9SYYS-iXKKegr_o6WrjvNse66iE1aD18J0o8r3czxGmwFBzoR5WWEosAZRyZPeUHT_7q_XKmfCmyiKXbaJTk0l1SNINzKhzBaxy-V0p https://files.app.net/1/79773/aTOWGMJ-rQ2Js_Edg-CWLi5FsLEVYq... I either never knew that existed when I tried Mail.app with Gmail or it didn't work. In any case, it works perfectly with FastMail's "Archive" folder.
- jfb 13y ago
  No, and it's really annoying. I have an "Archive" mailbox in my Fastmail account, and Mail on both OS X and iOS recognize it as special (they give it the same "archive" icon as a GMail account), but don't override the 'delete' function. I haven't found a Radar for it, but I imagine that many of same have been closed as "works as designed".
  - brongondwana 13y ago
    Surely "Delete" is more "Move to Trash"? In our web interface, there are two buttons - one moves to Trash, the other to the Archive folder.
    - jfb 13y ago
      I don't use webmail; I was referring to the way that iOS recoginizes GMail's "All Mail" and overrides the delete function.
- MatthewPhillips 13y ago
  Yes, it has Archive.
- kryptiskt 13y ago
  Yes, there is an archive button. There is a difference, mail in Fastmail is in traditional IMAP folders and don't use tags as folders, I assume that you just tell the mail client not to download the archive folder.
- eridius 13y ago
  Mail.app's "Archive" isn't the same as Gmail's. In Gmail, it just removes it from the current mailbox but leaves it in All Mail. Mail.app actually moves it to a specially-named IMAP folder.
ValentineC 13y ago
FastMail removed their Guest account tier a couple of months ago. [1] Existing accounts (I have one of those) were grandfathered in, though. [1] http://blog.fastmail.fm/2012/10/18/changes-to-fastmail-service-levels/ http://blog.fastmail.fm/2012/10/18/changes-to-fastmail-servi...
alfiejohn_ 13y ago
Undo send? In order to do that, we would have to hold all outbound emails until a delay threshold was reached... I'm not sure if that's a good idea.
- Tyr42 13y ago
  It's about 10 seconds, and it's saved me when I realize I forgot to attach stuff more than once.
- username111 13y ago
  Gmail has it as an option (labs last I used gmail), that is the best way I think to do it. I don't ever find a need to undo an email though. I believe it was only for like 20-30 seconds as well that it offered undo.
  - pyre 13y ago
    | Gmail has it as an option Supposedly Gmail added this as an option because their infrastructure was setup in such a way that the delay was already there. They just made hooks so that you could cancel it before it was sent.
    - Intermernet 13y ago
      Any chance you could hunt down a reference for this? I regularly test email servers from my Gmail account (amongst others) and I've found that their outgoing messages hit my mail servers almost instantly.
- fiatpandas 13y ago
  What would make it a bad idea? Just delay sending it for a user-specified amount of time (I think Gmail does 5s, 10s, and 30s), then have the UI for undo-ing the send disappear after the time elapses
brongondwana 13y ago
Under the hood it's all Cyrus IMAPd server with a ton of customisations (seriously, it's a lot - it's kind of getting out of hand - I need to tidy some up and push them back upstream) The code we run in production is all available to anyone who wants to play with it, though the usual caveats about "it's not particularly well tested for any configurations other than exactly the one we run" apply. https://github.com/brong/cyrus-imapd/branches/fastmail https://github.com/brong/cyrus-imapd/branches/fastmail brong@prin:~/src/cyrus-imapd$ git log --oneline cmu/master..HEAD | wc -l 632 brong@prin:~/src/cyrus-imapd$ git diff cmu/master HEAD | diffstat | tail -n 1 149 files changed, 39060 insertions(+), 4314 deletions(-)

by masnick 13y ago

zrail 13y ago

Does Fastmail.FM have the equivalent of the "Archive" action in Gmail? Mail.app on OS X and on iPhone seem to play well with Archive and it's not something that I really want to give up.

masnick 13y ago
YES! And Mail.app on OS X actually works better with FastMail's Archive than it ever did with Gmail's (in my experience). Here's a screenshot from Mail.app: https://files.app.net/1/79773/aTOWGMJ-rQ2Js_Edg-CWLi5FsLEVYq6gHDg7hoOrqEbzhj-leQKYvSOJldSlIFDWtfh7MhPL5Bd-wQWdc17X5AXlfT9SYYS-iXKKegr_o6WrjvNse66iE1aD18J0o8r3czxGmwFBzoR5WWEosAZRyZPeUHT_7q_XKmfCmyiKXbaJTk0l1SNINzKhzBaxy-V0p https://files.app.net/1/79773/aTOWGMJ-rQ2Js_Edg-CWLi5FsLEVYq... I either never knew that existed when I tried Mail.app with Gmail or it didn't work. In any case, it works perfectly with FastMail's "Archive" folder.
jfb 13y ago
No, and it's really annoying. I have an "Archive" mailbox in my Fastmail account, and Mail on both OS X and iOS recognize it as special (they give it the same "archive" icon as a GMail account), but don't override the 'delete' function. I haven't found a Radar for it, but I imagine that many of same have been closed as "works as designed".
- brongondwana 13y ago
  Surely "Delete" is more "Move to Trash"? In our web interface, there are two buttons - one moves to Trash, the other to the Archive folder.
  - jfb 13y ago
    I don't use webmail; I was referring to the way that iOS recoginizes GMail's "All Mail" and overrides the delete function.
MatthewPhillips 13y ago
Yes, it has Archive.
kryptiskt 13y ago
Yes, there is an archive button. There is a difference, mail in Fastmail is in traditional IMAP folders and don't use tags as folders, I assume that you just tell the mail client not to download the archive folder.
eridius 13y ago
Mail.app's "Archive" isn't the same as Gmail's. In Gmail, it just removes it from the current mailbox but leaves it in All Mail. Mail.app actually moves it to a specially-named IMAP folder.

ValentineC 13y ago

FastMail removed their Guest account tier a couple of months ago. [1] Existing accounts (I have one of those) were grandfathered in, though. [1] http://blog.fastmail.fm/2012/10/18/changes-to-fastmail-service-levels/ http://blog.fastmail.fm/2012/10/18/changes-to-fastmail-servi...

alfiejohn_ 13y ago

Undo send? In order to do that, we would have to hold all outbound emails until a delay threshold was reached... I'm not sure if that's a good idea.

Tyr42 13y ago
It's about 10 seconds, and it's saved me when I realize I forgot to attach stuff more than once.
username111 13y ago
Gmail has it as an option (labs last I used gmail), that is the best way I think to do it. I don't ever find a need to undo an email though. I believe it was only for like 20-30 seconds as well that it offered undo.
- pyre 13y ago
  | Gmail has it as an option Supposedly Gmail added this as an option because their infrastructure was setup in such a way that the delay was already there. They just made hooks so that you could cancel it before it was sent.
  - Intermernet 13y ago
    Any chance you could hunt down a reference for this? I regularly test email servers from my Gmail account (amongst others) and I've found that their outgoing messages hit my mail servers almost instantly.
fiatpandas 13y ago
What would make it a bad idea? Just delay sending it for a user-specified amount of time (I think Gmail does 5s, 10s, and 30s), then have the UI for undo-ing the send disappear after the time elapses

brongondwana 13y ago

Under the hood it's all Cyrus IMAPd server with a ton of customisations (seriously, it's a lot - it's kind of getting out of hand - I need to tidy some up and push them back upstream) The code we run in production is all available to anyone who wants to play with it, though the usual caveats about "it's not particularly well tested for any configurations other than exactly the one we run" apply. https://github.com/brong/cyrus-imapd/branches/fastmail https://github.com/brong/cyrus-imapd/branches/fastmail brong@prin:~/src/cyrus-imapd$ git log --oneline cmu/master..HEAD | wc -l 632 brong@prin:~/src/cyrus-imapd$ git diff cmu/master HEAD | diffstat | tail -n 1 149 files changed, 39060 insertions(+), 4314 deletions(-)