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You are EVERYthing that is wrong with startups. I would advise you to quit criticising the audacity of a team that is trying to change the world for the better.

You are EVERYthing that is wrong with startups. I would advise you to quit criticising the audacity of a team that is trying to change the world for the better. How many startups can legitimately say that?!

Guvante 13y ago
How many startups if they obtained their stated goals on a global scale wouldn't impact the world for the better? Risk vs reward. Very little risk in tech companies, quite a few in biotech.
w1ntermute 13y ago
In your boundless zeal for "innovation," you have completely failed to comprehend what I was saying. Putting someone in the hospital is no laughing matter. You can't just "iterate" and "learn from your mistakes" in biotech. We're talking about life and death here, not some filtered hipster cat photos.
- tokenizer 13y ago
  Not get caught up in the hate/arguing, but if they're raising money for this, and will be apparently working within the FDA guidelines, wouldn't they have strenuous testing before they release this to market?
  - zipppy 13y ago
    The facility is apparently FDA-approved -- this says nothing about the product itself. edit: I will probably try it myself as a replacement for some meals, so I hate to simply sound like another voice piling on, but it seems pretty clear to me (whether it was intentional or not) that the "FDA-approved" comment is misleading.
  - usefulcat 13y ago
    Depends on exactly what they mean by "produced in an FDA-approved facility with strict regulatory controls ensuring safety". To me, that sounds like it could mean as little as "we're going to produce it in a commercial kitchen".
- cwilson 13y ago
  We're talking about life and death now? That's quite the extreme you've just jumped to. After reading through the ingredients being used in Soylent none of them seem particularly life threatening (Cached version, site seems to be slammed: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:f487PaTqCaMJ:robrhinehart.com/%3Fp%3D424+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:f487PaT...). I admit they need a warning of some sort on the campaign, and they should probably link to his blog posts about everything that goes into this, but the "life and death" argument is a bit extreme.
  - AnIrishDuck 13y ago
    > After reading through the ingredients being used in Soylent none of them seem particularly life threatening It's not what's in this product, it's what this product is purported to replace. I don't see anything inherently harmful in a wooden frame until it's marketed as a drop-in replacement for reinforced steel construction. This product is being marketed as an alternative to food.
  - w1ntermute 13y ago
    > After reading through the ingredients being used in Soylent none of them seem particularly life threatening Please, stop commenting on things you clearly do not understand. Human biology and nutrition is a tad more complicated than creating an iPhone fart app. There's a lot more to nutrition than examining a list of ingredients.
    - javert 13y ago
      Unless you present a specific reason to think that Soylent is unsafe, you're just blowing hot air. The reason I even bother pointing this out is because you seem like the kind of person who might actually be able to present a specific reason. Obviously, it's not safe to assume that it can replace all food, period, but I don't see/haven't heard any specific reason to suspect that it would be dangerous to consume it in large portions on a regular basis.

Guvante 13y ago

How many startups if they obtained their stated goals on a global scale wouldn't impact the world for the better? Risk vs reward. Very little risk in tech companies, quite a few in biotech.

w1ntermute 13y ago

In your boundless zeal for "innovation," you have completely failed to comprehend what I was saying. Putting someone in the hospital is no laughing matter. You can't just "iterate" and "learn from your mistakes" in biotech. We're talking about life and death here, not some filtered hipster cat photos.

tokenizer 13y ago
Not get caught up in the hate/arguing, but if they're raising money for this, and will be apparently working within the FDA guidelines, wouldn't they have strenuous testing before they release this to market?
- zipppy 13y ago
  The facility is apparently FDA-approved -- this says nothing about the product itself. edit: I will probably try it myself as a replacement for some meals, so I hate to simply sound like another voice piling on, but it seems pretty clear to me (whether it was intentional or not) that the "FDA-approved" comment is misleading.
- usefulcat 13y ago
  Depends on exactly what they mean by "produced in an FDA-approved facility with strict regulatory controls ensuring safety". To me, that sounds like it could mean as little as "we're going to produce it in a commercial kitchen".
cwilson 13y ago
We're talking about life and death now? That's quite the extreme you've just jumped to. After reading through the ingredients being used in Soylent none of them seem particularly life threatening (Cached version, site seems to be slammed: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:f487PaTqCaMJ:robrhinehart.com/%3Fp%3D424+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:f487PaT...). I admit they need a warning of some sort on the campaign, and they should probably link to his blog posts about everything that goes into this, but the "life and death" argument is a bit extreme.
- AnIrishDuck 13y ago
  > After reading through the ingredients being used in Soylent none of them seem particularly life threatening It's not what's in this product, it's what this product is purported to replace. I don't see anything inherently harmful in a wooden frame until it's marketed as a drop-in replacement for reinforced steel construction. This product is being marketed as an alternative to food.
- w1ntermute 13y ago
  > After reading through the ingredients being used in Soylent none of them seem particularly life threatening Please, stop commenting on things you clearly do not understand. Human biology and nutrition is a tad more complicated than creating an iPhone fart app. There's a lot more to nutrition than examining a list of ingredients.
  - javert 13y ago
    Unless you present a specific reason to think that Soylent is unsafe, you're just blowing hot air. The reason I even bother pointing this out is because you seem like the kind of person who might actually be able to present a specific reason. Obviously, it's not safe to assume that it can replace all food, period, but I don't see/haven't heard any specific reason to suspect that it would be dangerous to consume it in large portions on a regular basis.