5 ms·
Looking at the log: thanks for reminding me why I no longer do IRC. All the banhammer dramas, all the time. (This has nothing to do with information leakage or
by acc00 13y ago
Looking at the log: thanks for reminding me why I no longer do IRC. All the banhammer dramas, all the time.
(This has nothing to do with information leakage or Apple.)
- TheCowboy 13y agoI'm not familiar with this channel in question, but I feel that my experiences on Freenode have been very positive as far as online communities go. Most people are still helpful and civil. Though it's unfortunate that many channels, in general, seem to get corrupted and grow stale when carbon copies of this Brane-type of channel operator become part of the 'ruling party'.
- incision 13y ago>Looking at the log: thanks for reminding me why I no longer do IRC. Precisely my feeling. It's been at least 12 years yet seeing that stereotypical smiley self-importance took me right back.
- welterde 13y agoThere are plenty of channels that have no operator and thus none of that banning, etc. drama (and there are of course +something channels, which cannot have any modes on them or modes on nicks inside the channel and thus always operate on the everyone decides for themselves who is annoying and who isn't principle).
- shrughes 13y agoIt's a Freenode channel, unsurprisingly. Try IRCing elsewhere.
- jarek 13y ago> All the banhammer dramas, all the time. Thank god there's none of that on HN.
- tripzilch 13y agoWe got hellbans. Much cleaner.
- mikeash 13y agoI wonder how hellbanning would work on IRC. Seems like it could be brilliant.
- tripzilch 13y agoA server could easily implement it, there must be some plugins that do exactly that. Disclaimer: I'm pretty much opposed to any type of hellban except in some very specific circumstances (that wouldn't apply to HN).
- mikeash 13y agoJust curious, why do you oppose hellbanning? I find it a rather neat solution, but have little experience with it in general.
- luke_s 13y agoI am opposed to hellbanning on hacker news. I believe it hurts our community for the following reasons: * It lacks transparency - nobody knows who is hellbanned, and why they were hellbanned. There is no appeal. * It is a crude tool - hellbanning somebody fails to take into account that they could reform their behavior, or just have made some bad decisions in the heat of an argument. * There have been cases I have seen where useful or interesting comments have been lost because the poster is hellbanned. This demonstrates that it doesn't just have theoretical flaws - it actually is causing us to lose valuable content.
- DanBC 13y ago> There is no appeal. Someone who is hellbanned can come back with a new account. Or, if they feel it was a mistake they could write a short email explaining this and asking for an unban. > useful or interesting comments have been lost because the poster is hellbanned. What? The content is still there.