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My employer pays for my time and talent. Freelancing programmers are paid for their time and talent. I, however, assign copyright over my works to my employer,

by jff 13y ago

My employer pays for my time and talent. Freelancing programmers are paid for their time and talent. I, however, assign copyright over my works to my employer, because that's part of the terms of my employment. If photographers want to extort $25 for a .jpg, that's fine, but let's not pretend it's anything more. I'd rather buy my own camera and learn to take photos properly than pay $25 per digital copy, it would be more fun.

cwisecarver 13y ago
Contract, for-hire photographers aren't employees. Freelance programmers give up their copyright willingly. Just because you negotiated badly doesn't mean photographers have to as well. Go buy your own camera and learn to take photos properly! I would encourage everyone to do that. The exact moment that you grasp mastery of photography will be the day that you understand why photographers don't give up their copyright or hand over digital files to you.
- thedufer 13y ago
  > Freelance programmers give up their copyright willingly. No, they give them up because that's _the entire point of hiring a freelancer_. It sounds absurd to pay someone to create something but not actually get that thing for yourself. That's what the money is in exchange for.
  - nthj 13y ago
    > No, they give them up because that's _the entire point of hiring a freelancer_. Not really. My clients are paying for results, and part of those results include a license to use the code I write forever. But I never give up the copyright. I frequently re-use techniques, libraries, modules, etc across clients, and in fact would be stupid not to.
beat 13y ago
Good luck with that. Got a few years?
slantyyz 13y ago
>> I'd rather buy my own camera and learn to take photos properly than pay $25 per digital copy, it would be more fun. Taking photos for yourself is always fun. Taking photos for other people for money is not nearly as fun as you think it is, especially if your customers don't respect what you do and think that they could do your job by buying a camera. I'm not a pro photographer, but I've definitely had my share of customers who'd constantly complain about how much we were charging them because they thought that by reading a manual, they could do what we do.

by jff 13y ago

cwisecarver 13y ago

Contract, for-hire photographers aren't employees. Freelance programmers give up their copyright willingly. Just because you negotiated badly doesn't mean photographers have to as well. Go buy your own camera and learn to take photos properly! I would encourage everyone to do that. The exact moment that you grasp mastery of photography will be the day that you understand why photographers don't give up their copyright or hand over digital files to you.

thedufer 13y ago
> Freelance programmers give up their copyright willingly. No, they give them up because that's _the entire point of hiring a freelancer_. It sounds absurd to pay someone to create something but not actually get that thing for yourself. That's what the money is in exchange for.
- nthj 13y ago
  > No, they give them up because that's _the entire point of hiring a freelancer_. Not really. My clients are paying for results, and part of those results include a license to use the code I write forever. But I never give up the copyright. I frequently re-use techniques, libraries, modules, etc across clients, and in fact would be stupid not to.

beat 13y ago

Good luck with that. Got a few years?

slantyyz 13y ago

>> I'd rather buy my own camera and learn to take photos properly than pay $25 per digital copy, it would be more fun. Taking photos for yourself is always fun. Taking photos for other people for money is not nearly as fun as you think it is, especially if your customers don't respect what you do and think that they could do your job by buying a camera. I'm not a pro photographer, but I've definitely had my share of customers who'd constantly complain about how much we were charging them because they thought that by reading a manual, they could do what we do.