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It might be "groundbreaking" for the Arduino community but a BeagleBone Black is cheaper, far more powerful and seemingly (haven't seen official specs of Yun, b

It might be "groundbreaking" for the Arduino community but a BeagleBone Black is cheaper, far more powerful and seemingly (haven't seen official specs of Yun, but based on photos) not much bigger and can trivially be made wi-fi capable with a tiny USB dongle for like $5 on top of the $45 base price. Don't get me wrong, this is cool and there is certainly a benefit to the entire Arduino "ecosystem", particularly for those new to hobby electronics -- the IDEs and vast amount of tutorials create a nice positive feedback loop for the beginner. However, there is a lot more to the overall "Maker" electronics community than the Arduino and in context this is a cool little product, but nothing particularly unexpected. If anything Arduino has been lagging a bit behind everyone else on actual hardware and needed to catch up and this is a nice step there.

ChuckMcM 13y ago
I've got three Beaglebone Blacks and they are more powerful but not yet as well supported. The web based UI is really neat, would love to have a reliable Debian build (either Ubuntu or Wheezy, both currently suffer from a deadlock in the mmcq part of the MMC driver) The ability to add WiFi on the native stack is insanely hard (you can do it by going through the Gnome session but for an embedded system? That is a bit cumbersome, and building something that has to use dbus to talk to a daemon that is running a graphic widget on a headless system, it kind of rubs me the wrong way) That said, I expect over time I expect the Black to do really well, and the Arduino Due. Many people could learn a lot by looking at what Arduino does well.
_fs 13y ago
You laud the Arduino ecosystem as a place for hobbyists, yet you promote beaglebone? BeagleBone specifically warns against using the beaglebone in a retail product. From the beaglebone terms of use.... You may use the Beaglebone Black as you choose. However, we do not support the use of the board in commercial products.The reasons for this are very simple. We did not design the board for use in your product. We cannot therefore guarantee that it will work in all cases and over the full range of operation you expect. We have had instances where people have done this and returned 25% of their purchases saying they would not work. Either the boards worked perfectly once received, or they had been blown up. This adds to our costs and puts a burden on our RMA operation. It also takes away from our production capacity. We do not want to see our distributors run out of boards because someone is buying up the inventory.

ChuckMcM 13y ago

I've got three Beaglebone Blacks and they are more powerful but not yet as well supported. The web based UI is really neat, would love to have a reliable Debian build (either Ubuntu or Wheezy, both currently suffer from a deadlock in the mmcq part of the MMC driver) The ability to add WiFi on the native stack is insanely hard (you can do it by going through the Gnome session but for an embedded system? That is a bit cumbersome, and building something that has to use dbus to talk to a daemon that is running a graphic widget on a headless system, it kind of rubs me the wrong way) That said, I expect over time I expect the Black to do really well, and the Arduino Due. Many people could learn a lot by looking at what Arduino does well.

_fs 13y ago

You laud the Arduino ecosystem as a place for hobbyists, yet you promote beaglebone? BeagleBone specifically warns against using the beaglebone in a retail product. From the beaglebone terms of use.... You may use the Beaglebone Black as you choose. However, we do not support the use of the board in commercial products.The reasons for this are very simple. We did not design the board for use in your product. We cannot therefore guarantee that it will work in all cases and over the full range of operation you expect. We have had instances where people have done this and returned 25% of their purchases saying they would not work. Either the boards worked perfectly once received, or they had been blown up. This adds to our costs and puts a burden on our RMA operation. It also takes away from our production capacity. We do not want to see our distributors run out of boards because someone is buying up the inventory.