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No, but the Apple legal team has been informed about it so you're technically downloading illegal content.
by asiekierka 13y ago
No, but the Apple legal team has been informed about it so you're technically downloading illegal content.
- andrewcooke 13y agohow does what the apple legal team know change the legality of the download?
- asiekierka 13y agoYou're aware that the content is illegal as they have confirmed it - otherwise you might have had doubt
- dagw 13y agoI am aware of no such thing. All I know is that some random person on a random forum claims that some lawyer at Apple claims it's illegal. And even if it was 100% illegal to view in the US, that doesn't say anything about the rest of the world.
- FireBeyond 13y agoThe content may have been a civil breach of contract for the originator to disseminate, but you commit no breach nor crime by looking at it, as you have no non-disclosure agreement with Apple.
- drrotmos 13y agoQuite a few of us probably DO have an active NDA with Apple (e.g. from being a Registered Apple Developer). Though IANAL ,from my reading of the terms viewing the materials shouldn't constitute a breach of the NDA either.
- mikeash 13y agoYou're not Disclosing anything by downloading it, so I don't think the Non-Disclosure Agreement would apply.
- FireBeyond 13y agoRight. And unless the materials were specifically enumerated, even then, it'd be hard to argue that your NDA for software development would apply to "a service manual I obtained from someone who didn't have the right to distribute".
- SEMW 13y agoThat might need to be qualified: depending on jurisdiction, just because if you don't have a contract with Apple, you shouldn't necessarily assume you're safe from civil liability (if you use or pass it on to others, at least). Here in England, in some circumstances it's possible to be held liable in Breach of Confidence for passing on information you come across that you know is confidential, even without any kind of pre-existing relationship like a NDA. (N.B. I have no idea whether that's true anywhere else but England. Also IANAL, this isn't legal advice, etc.)
- zurn 13y agoWhen it's posted on the front page of a news site, it's hardly confidential any more...
- SEMW 13y agoTrue. I was thinking of the submitter, though - it's not obvious to me that a court would consider a file uploaded to an anonymous file sharing site is part of the public domain (test: 'so generally accessible that it cannot be regarded as confidential') before it reached the front page of hn.
- mikeash 13y agoWhat exactly is "illegal content"?
- tripzilch 13y agodownvotes? I assumed he was making a joke? I normally try to not comment about voting, but in this instance I'm actually curious whether he was making a joke or not.