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This is a win for New Yorkers. The whole sharing economy thing is unsafe, ridiculous, and kind of pathetic.
by Diamons 13y ago
This is a win for New Yorkers. The whole sharing economy thing is unsafe, ridiculous, and kind of pathetic.
- robotmay 13y agoEvidence?
- kwamenum86 13y agoPathetic? Care to elaborate on that?
- darkarmani 13y ago> The whole sharing economy thing is unsafe, ridiculous, and kind of pathetic. How do New Yorkers win by having less choice?
- prawn 13y agoTheir neighbours are more likely to be people there for the long term and with an interest in the community, rather than just renting out their place to people a night at a time. I can see the negative side of AirBnB, though that said I just booked a place in Paris because every central hotel under $300/night appears to be booked for next week.
- brador 13y agoDo you not worry that someone will setup cameras in the WC, record you pooping, then sell the videos, together with your personal details, on an underground tor darksite in exchange for Bitcoins? And you'll never know? I used to be very trusting of places until I stayed at a university accom during a conference one time. The janitor was up to no good, but we had to leave and no one wanted the trouble of reporting it to front desk.
- prawn 13y agoI've stayed in tiny hotels in 30+ countries and not been worried about that so I'm not sure why it would be much different with AirBnB.
- darkarmani 13y ago> Their neighbours are more likely to be people there for the long term and with an interest in the community, rather than just renting out their place to people a night at a time. Of course that is true, but no they can no longer choose to live in places that allow AirBnBing their apartments. Your argument seems more applicable w/r/t contract law. If you don't want those kind of neighbors you can live in places that prohibit AirBnB.
- prawn 13y agoMost places do prohibit AirBnB-style arrangements in many circumstances. A lot of landlords prohibit it in their contracts.
- Diamons 13y agoI am a New Yorker and I win by not having someone here for the short term vs an actual neighbor. This is a hotel no matter which way you try and paint it.
- darkarmani 13y agoCan't you get the same thing by choosing to live somewhere that contractually prevents AirBnB rather than prohibiting it for everyone? > This is a hotel no matter which way you try and paint it. How is renting out your apartment 3 weekends a year a hotel? You can currently do that on craigslist, it's just harder to connect buyers and sellers.
- tehabe 13y agoThey don't have less choice, they might even have more choice because flat which has been used as hotels could become flats again.
- awolf 13y agoPlease do explain. I think the sharing economy is brilliant and the way of the future. If there's spare capacity in the world, why should it not be utilized. Unsafe? Is it more unsafe to a degree that the ends don't justify the means? I doubt it.
- Diamons 13y agoPerhaps sharing tools, yes. Sharing cars, MAYBE. But sharing living spaces and housing, no. Housing is one of the most intimate services out there services out there. I have standards, I have rights, and I want to feel safe and secure where I live. I am a New Yorker and I don't want to feel like I'm living like a poor person with a hotel next door. EDIT: The very definition of a hotel - An establishment providing accommodations, meals, and other services for travelers and tourists.
- loceng 13y agoI think that's likely fear talking.
- pnathan 13y agoWhat's wrong with a hotel next door? People have to sleep somewhere... ...and for that matter, is feeling like you're living like a poor person a problem? O.o
- greghinch 13y agoWhy does having a "hotel" next door make you feel like a poor person?
- Diamons 13y agoI phrased my point incorrectly. What I mean is when I buy a house or rent an apartment, I want stability. I want to know who's around me and see familiar faces. I don't want the variable of some new short term resident LIVING every other week right next to me. It's like choosing to live in a rich neighborhood vs a poor one; I want to minimize the risk factor of crime as much as possible as do my neighbors.
- toomuchtodo 13y agoGod forbid we more efficiently allocate resources in a dynamic way. If done safely and ethically, its a fabulous with for consumers.
- Diamons 13y agoAt the end of the day, it's a hotel. I don't want to live next to someone from somewhere else who isn't here to be my neighbor. What about my rights?
- cheald 13y agoWhat makes you think you have any kind of right to choose who lives next to you, or to have a say in what they do with their property? If you take Airbnb out of the equation, the assertion is ridiculous.
- Diamons 13y agoI have a right to say no to AirBnB. Does my individual opinion matter? Probably not. Does the collective opinion of my neighborhood matter? Yeah it kind of does. We've been saying no to AirBnB for years, this isn't anything new. NYC says yes but for some reason the rest of the world thinks we're wrong to choose how we want to live.
- toomuchtodo 13y agoIf your neighbor has a friend stay with them, and their lease allows it, you have no say in the matter. It's their property rights, which flow to them from upstream property/rights owners. This is no different. Your right end where their rights begin, which I'd say start right around where their property lines/walls are.
- gte910h 13y agoAnd their lease likely says "No subleasing". If rent controlled, it precisely defines the amount that can be earned.
- polymatter 13y agoI declare Poe's law! I can't tell whether this is someone with another viewpoint I can learn from or just some brilliant sarcasm.