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This ruling only applies to the 5 boroughs of New York City, not the entire state.
by macleanjr 13y ago
This ruling only applies to the 5 boroughs of New York City, not the entire state.
- btipling 13y agoYes title should be changed to New York City as it is in the title of the blog post.
- eclipxe 13y agoOh whew! Glad it is nowhere important then.
- dillonforrest 13y agoThis is actually an annoying thing about NYC. In NYC, when people say "New York," they actually mean "New York City's five boroughs." When people say "upstate" or "upstate New York," they mean the rest of the state of New York minus NYC. When people say "the city," they mean "Manhattan." The title only makes sense to residents of NYC.
- macleanjr 13y agoAs a resident of Upstate New York, I can vouch for how frustrating this is. Especially when traveling.
- yebyen 13y agoActually, I am a resident of Rochester and I understood the title intuitively. Rochester is far (6 hours+) from The City. I was from Buffalo before that, even farther away. I am used to hearing about odd laws that only apply in NYC (the boroughs), from special conditions on a learners' permit license, to bans on 16+oz fountain drinks, when I hear "now illegal in New York" I tend to think naturally, it must apply only in New York City. We are actually second-class citizens, the legislature of NY is only for NYC (and the benefits of all the taxes we pay, union dues, etc, at least to hear my father tell it.)
- JackFr 13y agoActually NYC pays for itself, and upsate sucks money from Long Island and Westchester, whether you account by where you live or where you work: (This is by where you live) $Paid $Recd Pop Capital Region 3.8% 7.0% 4.2% New York City 45.1% 40.0% 42.9% Downstate Suburbs 27.4% 17.7% 21.7% Rest of State 23.8% 35.2% 31.2%
- yebyen 13y agoDownvotes, if I had them... Use two spaces before each line for pre-formatted text. Label your axes. Provide a reference for the source of your table. I have no idea if this is sales tax, income tax, or capital gains tax.
- jbooth 13y agoI wouldn't go as far as second-class citizens, NYC is less than half the population and, correspondingly, less than half of the districts. There are a lot of NYC-specific taxes and tolls collected. Hell, Republicans controlled the state legislature until a year ago or so (and you know they weren't from NYC). If I had to guess (I used to be in politics), your dad spends a lot of time complaining about property taxes -- I can guarantee those don't leave your municipality.
- yebyen 13y agoI am pretty sure he's more interested in payroll taxes, unemployment insurance, welfare dollars, Obamacare. I won't pretend I've read the ledgers, but when he texted me yesterday to say '49 states left', I hadn't heard about the devastation in Oklahoma and I started scanning the internet tubes to find the news that Texas finally seceeded over Obamacare.
- jbooth 13y agoWell, those are federal issues, so it sounds like his problem is the fact that Obama's president rather than anything to do with new york state. I'd also hypothesize that he was much less upset about these issues in December 2008 than he became starting in late January 2009.
- scott_s 13y agoWhen people in NYC say "upstate," they actually mean anything north of the Bronx. They don't really think of the fact that NYC is the southern-most part of the state, and it keeps going to Canada. I lived in Mount Vernon one summer, and I was confused when people in the city (see, I just did it) said I "lived upstate."
- randomdata 13y agoAs someone who lives outside of the US entirely, New York = NYC, New York State = the state of New York. As such, the original title was clear to me.
- rayiner 13y agoNew York State was named after New York City.
- ceejayoz 13y agoWashington DC was named after George Washington, but that doesn't make it a person.
- rayiner 13y agoBut both New York City and New York State are places. When someone just says "New York," going by which place had that name first is a reasonable way of resolving the ambiguity. Also: "York" is a city in England. It should be apparent that "New York" also refers to a city. "New York State" is the state in which the city of "New York" happens to be.
- sbov 13y agoThis seems questionable. From what I recall both the province and city were named after the Duke of York when the British took control of New Netherlands (and New Amsterdam) from the Dutch in the 1600s.