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Yahoo! Japan is an entity separate from Yahoo!. It is a joint venture between Yahoo! and SoftBank (a Japanese telecom). And to put this in context, IT in Japan

Yahoo! Japan is an entity separate from Yahoo!. It is a joint venture between Yahoo! and SoftBank (a Japanese telecom). And to put this in context, IT in Japan is about a decade behind the West.

hkmurakami 13y ago
Hopefully the newer generation of companies (GREE, DeNA, Line, etc) will change the way things are, acting as a catalyst.
- w1ntermute 13y ago
  There are definitely a lot of opportunities for innovation in Japan. This excellent post by a co-founder of MakeLeaps, an invoicing startup founded by gaijin, covers some of the difficulties (and opportunities): http://www.makeleaps.jp/blog/en/2012/05/everything-ive-learned-about-selling-saas-in-japan/ http://www.makeleaps.jp/blog/en/2012/05/everything-ive-learn...
robertlaing 13y ago
This is a gross generalization. Sure, plenty of companies are behind. But quite a few are too in the US... http://www.pcworld.com/article/249951/if_it_aint_broke_dont_fix_it_ancient_computers_in_use_today.html http://www.pcworld.com/article/249951/if_it_aint_broke_dont_... I'm also not sure that "new" means more secure in this kind of context either. LinkedIn ain't exactly ancient and had a similar breach last year.
- rurounijones 13y ago
  I would characterize the comment as more like "Attitudes towards development practices are a decade behind" (rather that the tech itself necessarily) which sounds pretty accurate[1] for most Japanese companies that are not part of the newer "Gree" wave. [1] Anecdotal data etc etc.
dicemoose 13y ago
What you're stating is a gross generalization and untrue in a literal sense (probably easy to realize if you remember how things were a decade ago). While Y!J and Y!Inc are separate entities, the former does borrow/use technology from the former and some of the Y!J services use Y!Inc servers and/or services maintained by Y!Inc. Y!J user ids are completely separate from Y!Inc though (Y!Inc ids are shared through out the Y! locales). It's been almost a decade since I was at Y!J, but from what I understand Y!J does continue to leverage the Y!Inc relationship for services and servers. Additionally, simply stating that old technology is the reason for a security breach could be a red herring, it isn't always the age of the technology but how it is implemented.

Yahoo! Japan is an entity separate from Yahoo!. It is a joint venture between Yahoo! and SoftBank (a Japanese telecom). And to put this in context, IT in Japan is about a decade behind the West.

hkmurakami 13y ago

Hopefully the newer generation of companies (GREE, DeNA, Line, etc) will change the way things are, acting as a catalyst.

w1ntermute 13y ago
There are definitely a lot of opportunities for innovation in Japan. This excellent post by a co-founder of MakeLeaps, an invoicing startup founded by gaijin, covers some of the difficulties (and opportunities): http://www.makeleaps.jp/blog/en/2012/05/everything-ive-learned-about-selling-saas-in-japan/ http://www.makeleaps.jp/blog/en/2012/05/everything-ive-learn...

robertlaing 13y ago

This is a gross generalization. Sure, plenty of companies are behind. But quite a few are too in the US... http://www.pcworld.com/article/249951/if_it_aint_broke_dont_fix_it_ancient_computers_in_use_today.html http://www.pcworld.com/article/249951/if_it_aint_broke_dont_... I'm also not sure that "new" means more secure in this kind of context either. LinkedIn ain't exactly ancient and had a similar breach last year.

rurounijones 13y ago
I would characterize the comment as more like "Attitudes towards development practices are a decade behind" (rather that the tech itself necessarily) which sounds pretty accurate[1] for most Japanese companies that are not part of the newer "Gree" wave. [1] Anecdotal data etc etc.

dicemoose 13y ago

What you're stating is a gross generalization and untrue in a literal sense (probably easy to realize if you remember how things were a decade ago). While Y!J and Y!Inc are separate entities, the former does borrow/use technology from the former and some of the Y!J services use Y!Inc servers and/or services maintained by Y!Inc. Y!J user ids are completely separate from Y!Inc though (Y!Inc ids are shared through out the Y! locales). It's been almost a decade since I was at Y!J, but from what I understand Y!J does continue to leverage the Y!Inc relationship for services and servers. Additionally, simply stating that old technology is the reason for a security breach could be a red herring, it isn't always the age of the technology but how it is implemented.