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Bitter and self-indulgent? That's pretty much Winer every day on his blog. He gets excited, talks up whatever he's working on, gets upset when he's ignored, and
by in2d 13y ago
Bitter and self-indulgent? That's pretty much Winer every day on his blog. He gets excited, talks up whatever he's working on, gets upset when he's ignored, and hates whenever anyone else is getting attention he believes he deserves.
I'm sorry, Dave has helped create and develop some good things in the past, but it's time people were honest and not 'afraid' of how they might sound.
Dave Winer is a bitter, angry man. Period. He's always been that way, and it's only gotten worse as he's gotten older. He's spent an entire career attacking, and now that there's a new generation of creators and he's been forgotten, he's stomping his feet because I'm sure he feels as if he's being ignored. And in many ways, he is. No one really wants to deal with an egomaniac.
I actually feel sorry for Dave Winer, but we reap what we sow. And he's definitely reaping at this stage of his career.
- Udo 13y ago> but it's time people were honest and not 'afraid' of how they might sound. On that note, why don't you post this with your real account then? I'm using my real name, Danilo sure is using his, and we're talking (trash) about a real person who, by the way, also has an HN account to his name. You, however, created in2d for the sole purpose of making this inflammatory comment.
- davewiner 13y agoHacker News has always been like this. What's new at least in my experience is that the jerks are getting some pushback. I doubt if any of these people know me. I'm working hard on a startup now, with good results. I don't know who they're describing here, but it ain't me! ;-)
- chris_wot 13y agoI just want to say, it was entirely unreasonable of them to have made personal comments about you. There was a comment that compared you to a "whiner", and another that slagged off at you for no particularly good reason that I could see. Both posts I voted down, and I hope others do also. HN is better than this. I'm sorry you had to read that crap. I wish you the best at your next startup!
- Udo 13y agoHey, for what it's worth we're for the most part just doing cheap shots from the peanut gallery (myself included). Keep in mind that this particular thread hasn't necessarily been about content. Whether I agree with you on particular issues or not, I think your willingness to engage with the community is exemplary - I really wish more influential people would do that.
- leephillips 13y ago"Engage": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4216839 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4216839
- nickzoic 13y agoDark chocolate perhaps? FWIW I think the best thing about the existence of blogs is learning from others' successes and mistakes. The stories of the successes sometimes come off as self-indulgent, the stories of the mistakes sometimes come across as bitter. Such is life. And you know what? Some day I might be fortunate enough to be in the position to negotiate myself the title of "Grand Poo-Bah of Integrating All The Things" at the acquiring company, and I'll remember your article and negotiate for a nicer parking spot instead. Cheers! EDIT: s/come/sometimes come/g
- thedanfilter 13y agoThis is the best comment I've read in this thread.