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I have not read about how the extradition was handled (counter-terrorism things that is, in which document is that?). The three months wasn't strictly solitary

by pathy 13y ago

I have not read about how the extradition was handled (counter-terrorism things that is, in which document is that?). The three months wasn't strictly solitary as far as I can tell but it gets spun to all hell every time 'häkte' is mentioned so I don't know what is true or not. Somehow the fact that he can't get a graphical calculator is more important than what he is accused of. If that is not spin I don't know what is. As for the lies to the media, denying lawyer etc; sources? There is so much newly released data so I don't know where to look to find it so an indication in the right direction would be helpful. Lastly, the matter is political because anakata, and the others, allegedly released a lot of protected identities, hacked government related services as well as a bank. The identities are protected for a reason (police, domestic violence, witnesses and so forth). This is a very high profile case with influential interests on both sides (TPB/Wikileaks supporters on one side and Swedish govt/Nordea/Logica on the other), thus it appears on HN. Edit: I forgot, if it is indeed the case that he has been treated in ways that are not up to scratch with what we expect from countries with respectable rule of law then that is of course worrying and will hopefully come to light during the trial, or afterwards.

belorn 13y ago
While I normally applaud the asking for sources, when the main article has both base data as well as linked blogs, some expectation of honest attempt of self-research is expected. However, here is some short number of links. More could probably be found if I was really digging. If one want the relative short version, check out the blog post (http://qnrq.se/sweden-kidnapped-anakata/ http://qnrq.se/sweden-kidnapped-anakata/) or torrentfreak post (https://torrentfreak.com/sweden-kidnapped-my-friend-pirate-bay-co-founder-anakata-120810/ https://torrentfreak.com/sweden-kidnapped-my-friend-pirate-b...) about that blog post. For each separate point: use of counter-terrorism resources: http://www.ibtimes.com/pirate-bay-founder-gottfrid-svartholm-allegedly-arrested-over-tax-hack-not-piracy-779721 http://www.ibtimes.com/pirate-bay-founder-gottfrid-svartholm... strictly solitary: http://nyheter24.se/nyheter/internet/730683-pirate-bay-grundarens-mamma-vadjar-till-amnesty http://nyheter24.se/nyheter/internet/730683-pirate-bay-grund.... I would add that sweden do not have solitary treatment as an separate thing. It has 'häkte' with additional restrictions. In this case, the additional restrictions meant no talking to other prisoners. One hour per day of rest outside the cell, but strictly alone. One hour of visitation for the family per week, through only if the police had time. If that can be translated to the US version of solitary confinement is up to the reader to decide. lies to the media and mother: (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/382964/20120911/gottfrid-svartholm-deported-pirate-bay-torrent-file.htm http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/382964/20120911/gottfrid-s...) and (http://nyheter24.se/nyheter/internet/727383-pirate-bay-grundarens-mamma-trott-pa-logner http://nyheter24.se/nyheter/internet/727383-pirate-bay-grund...). They initially claimed that he was deported because of a revoked passport. Once in Sweden, they changed their tune. Saying something in false pretense, then changing it once the circumstances is more favorable is the definition of a lie. denying lawyer access: See above link. Covers that too there. Check the linked blog article, and see statements from the mother. Want links for that too? An other source: (http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/svartholm-warg-anhallen-for-dataintrang http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/svartholm-warg-anhallen-for...) Last, I would like to add that this is likely not to effect the trial. Swedish law do not address those kind of circumstances when determining guilt. If Gottfrid Svartholm lawyers brings it up, it could be an argument for lowering any sentence but other than that, its unlikely to be even brought up.

by pathy 13y ago

belorn 13y ago

While I normally applaud the asking for sources, when the main article has both base data as well as linked blogs, some expectation of honest attempt of self-research is expected. However, here is some short number of links. More could probably be found if I was really digging. If one want the relative short version, check out the blog post (http://qnrq.se/sweden-kidnapped-anakata/ http://qnrq.se/sweden-kidnapped-anakata/) or torrentfreak post (https://torrentfreak.com/sweden-kidnapped-my-friend-pirate-bay-co-founder-anakata-120810/ https://torrentfreak.com/sweden-kidnapped-my-friend-pirate-b...) about that blog post. For each separate point: use of counter-terrorism resources: http://www.ibtimes.com/pirate-bay-founder-gottfrid-svartholm-allegedly-arrested-over-tax-hack-not-piracy-779721 http://www.ibtimes.com/pirate-bay-founder-gottfrid-svartholm... strictly solitary: http://nyheter24.se/nyheter/internet/730683-pirate-bay-grundarens-mamma-vadjar-till-amnesty http://nyheter24.se/nyheter/internet/730683-pirate-bay-grund.... I would add that sweden do not have solitary treatment as an separate thing. It has 'häkte' with additional restrictions. In this case, the additional restrictions meant no talking to other prisoners. One hour per day of rest outside the cell, but strictly alone. One hour of visitation for the family per week, through only if the police had time. If that can be translated to the US version of solitary confinement is up to the reader to decide. lies to the media and mother: (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/382964/20120911/gottfrid-svartholm-deported-pirate-bay-torrent-file.htm http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/382964/20120911/gottfrid-s...) and (http://nyheter24.se/nyheter/internet/727383-pirate-bay-grundarens-mamma-trott-pa-logner http://nyheter24.se/nyheter/internet/727383-pirate-bay-grund...). They initially claimed that he was deported because of a revoked passport. Once in Sweden, they changed their tune. Saying something in false pretense, then changing it once the circumstances is more favorable is the definition of a lie. denying lawyer access: See above link. Covers that too there. Check the linked blog article, and see statements from the mother. Want links for that too? An other source: (http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/svartholm-warg-anhallen-for-dataintrang http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/svartholm-warg-anhallen-for...) Last, I would like to add that this is likely not to effect the trial. Swedish law do not address those kind of circumstances when determining guilt. If Gottfrid Svartholm lawyers brings it up, it could be an argument for lowering any sentence but other than that, its unlikely to be even brought up.