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It is not a text editor.

by ankitml 13y ago

gutnor 13y ago
Well, not quite sure about that. The only time I edit a text file outside my IDE is when I connect directly to a server, and in that case I use vi. That seems ridiculous to chose Vi as my primary text editor, when 99.9% of my text editing is done in Intellij. Well I abstained in this case, however where do you draw the limit ? If there was a poll about "What is your primary IDE" would Vim or Emacs not be listed because they are "just text editor" ?
- ankitml 13y ago
  Vim/emacs are text editors and can be customized to act as IDE. IDEs are IDEs. If asked What is your primary IDE, you can still say emacs or VIM
  - gutnor 13y ago
    Exactly! And when you use your IDE to edit text file they should be listed aswell using the same logic. When I said 99.9% of my text editing is done in Intellij. I also meant text editing outside of the project I'm working on: various config files, log file parsing, remote config files, ... Except for some extreme case like very large file, I rarely find the need to switch to another editor those days. Those days there is a large overlap between text editors and IDE. Both have made huge progress, so that outside java or c#, some text editor are perfectly serviceable IDE and conversely, IDE editor make decent editor.
    - ankitml 13y ago
      Not sure of the converse part though. Anyway, I think we can continue arguing on semantics. This is not going to benefit anyone like the flame wars. Use what you feel good and productive. Be happy.
ExpiredLink 13y ago
Eclipse 'merely' includes several text editors and is primarily used for editing text.
- obviouslygreen 13y ago
  And in the same way that a car includes many control interfaces but is not itself a control interface, a program that contains text editors is not itself a text editor.
  - epsylon 13y ago
    Well, Emacs isn't a text editor then.
    - snotrockets 13y ago
      Of course it isn't. Emacs is an OS, it just needs an inferior OS to bootstrap it
arethuza 13y ago
Nothing stopping you using IDEs purely as a text editor if you want.
- antimagic 13y ago
  Although Eclipse makes a pretty good attempt at doing just that!

It is not a text editor.

by ankitml 13y ago

It is not a text editor.

Well, not quite sure about that. The only time I edit a text file outside my IDE is when I connect directly to a server, and in that case I use vi. That seems ridiculous to chose Vi as my primary text editor, when 99.9% of my text editing is done in Intellij. Well I abstained in this case, however where do you draw the limit ? If there was a poll about "What is your primary IDE" would Vim or Emacs not be listed because they are "just text editor" ?

ankitml 13y ago
Vim/emacs are text editors and can be customized to act as IDE. IDEs are IDEs. If asked What is your primary IDE, you can still say emacs or VIM
- gutnor 13y ago
  Exactly! And when you use your IDE to edit text file they should be listed aswell using the same logic. When I said 99.9% of my text editing is done in Intellij. I also meant text editing outside of the project I'm working on: various config files, log file parsing, remote config files, ... Except for some extreme case like very large file, I rarely find the need to switch to another editor those days. Those days there is a large overlap between text editors and IDE. Both have made huge progress, so that outside java or c#, some text editor are perfectly serviceable IDE and conversely, IDE editor make decent editor.
  - ankitml 13y ago
    Not sure of the converse part though. Anyway, I think we can continue arguing on semantics. This is not going to benefit anyone like the flame wars. Use what you feel good and productive. Be happy.

ExpiredLink 13y ago

Eclipse 'merely' includes several text editors and is primarily used for editing text.

obviouslygreen 13y ago
And in the same way that a car includes many control interfaces but is not itself a control interface, a program that contains text editors is not itself a text editor.
- epsylon 13y ago
  Well, Emacs isn't a text editor then.
  - snotrockets 13y ago
    Of course it isn't. Emacs is an OS, it just needs an inferior OS to bootstrap it

arethuza 13y ago

Nothing stopping you using IDEs purely as a text editor if you want.

antimagic 13y ago
Although Eclipse makes a pretty good attempt at doing just that!