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I think that he should consider: "If you realize that you have been hellbanned, come back with a new account and clean up your act... then great!" Insulting yo

by jlgreco 13y ago

I think that he should consider: "If you realize that you have been hellbanned, come back with a new account and clean up your act... then great!" Insulting your downvoters and calling people psychopaths is toxic. He would be wise to refrain from doing so in the future if he wants to continue contributing here. Also, as far as I know most (all?) hellbannings are triggered by downvoting, not mods. It certainly seems likely that in his case it was triggered by downvotes.

clobber 13y ago
Actually I was fine with my current account. Creating a new one means losing your post history and identity. I think one can see the problem with hellbanning here... > Insulting your downvoters and calling people psychopaths is toxic. He would be wise to refrain from doing so in the future if he wants to continue contributing here. Me arguing about this is probably futile. > Also, as far as I know most (all?) hellbannings are triggered by downvoting, not mods. It certainly seems likely that in his case it was triggered by downvotes. Then the algo seemed flawed. The post in question is only a score of -2. Is it the 'rate' at which the downvotes occur? If so, that still seems flawed. Anyway, given the circumstances I'm pretty sure my hellbanning wasn't automatic hence why I'm posting from a "dead" account and why you won't be responding to me (or anyone giving a care for that matter - which is the point I'm making in my previous post).
nkurz 13y ago
I presume you have "show dead" on and are seeing his responses directly. But for those who don't, he points out below that his post had a net score of -2, making it seem unlikely that the downvotes triggered a ban automatically. Perhaps the ban lies to you about the score? My previous belief was that 'flagging' brings the post to the attention of moderators, who then decide whether to act, but that downvotes are independent. calling people psychopaths is toxic I agree, and this is what makes it tricky for me. But I think the problem here is with the opinion itself, rather than the way it is expressed. I don't know Andrew, and don't wish to insult him. But some reasonable recent research suggests that 4% of CEO's are clinical psychopaths. Is this possibility simply off limits to discuss here? Maybe it needs to be, or maybe there is some way it can be approached more tactfully. http://suggarynicedeath.blogspot.com/2013/02/psychopaths-in-business-politics-and.html http://suggarynicedeath.blogspot.com/2013/02/psychopaths-in-...

by jlgreco 13y ago

clobber 13y ago

Actually I was fine with my current account. Creating a new one means losing your post history and identity. I think one can see the problem with hellbanning here... > Insulting your downvoters and calling people psychopaths is toxic. He would be wise to refrain from doing so in the future if he wants to continue contributing here. Me arguing about this is probably futile. > Also, as far as I know most (all?) hellbannings are triggered by downvoting, not mods. It certainly seems likely that in his case it was triggered by downvotes. Then the algo seemed flawed. The post in question is only a score of -2. Is it the 'rate' at which the downvotes occur? If so, that still seems flawed. Anyway, given the circumstances I'm pretty sure my hellbanning wasn't automatic hence why I'm posting from a "dead" account and why you won't be responding to me (or anyone giving a care for that matter - which is the point I'm making in my previous post).

nkurz 13y ago

I presume you have "show dead" on and are seeing his responses directly. But for those who don't, he points out below that his post had a net score of -2, making it seem unlikely that the downvotes triggered a ban automatically. Perhaps the ban lies to you about the score? My previous belief was that 'flagging' brings the post to the attention of moderators, who then decide whether to act, but that downvotes are independent. calling people psychopaths is toxic I agree, and this is what makes it tricky for me. But I think the problem here is with the opinion itself, rather than the way it is expressed. I don't know Andrew, and don't wish to insult him. But some reasonable recent research suggests that 4% of CEO's are clinical psychopaths. Is this possibility simply off limits to discuss here? Maybe it needs to be, or maybe there is some way it can be approached more tactfully. http://suggarynicedeath.blogspot.com/2013/02/psychopaths-in-business-politics-and.html http://suggarynicedeath.blogspot.com/2013/02/psychopaths-in-...