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I don't know about your costs, but you have seem to have something in common, you both exploit copyrighted content. Maybe soon enough you'll have a lawsit in c

by volida 17y ago

I don't know about your costs, but you have seem to have something in common, you both exploit copyrighted content. Maybe soon enough you'll have a lawsit in common.

volida 17y ago
I expected down voting, so for those who of you who doubt what I said, here is a sample of some live evidence: http://www.justin.tv/search?q=soccer&commit=Search http://www.justin.tv/search?q=soccer&commit=Search
- smanek 17y ago
  You are wrong. Youtube/Justin.tv don't "exploit copyright content." The law explicitly allows what they do. The Online Copyright Infringement Liability Limitation Act creates a safe harbor for online service providers. It specifically says that those sort of sites are not liable for infringement as long as they take down content at the copyright holder's request (i.e., when the copyright holder issues a DMCA takedown notice). There are a lot of details which you can read about at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Copyright_Infringement_Liability_Limitation_Act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Copyright_Infringement_L.... Youtube/Justin have just as much right to host user uploaded content as copyright holders do to enforce their rights.
  - volida 17y ago
    4. I am well aware of the DCMA thank you very much.
    - smanek 17y ago
      Then you should know the law allows everything Youtube/Justin do and that your complaint has no validity.
      - volida 17y ago
        I didn't state a complain. I reffered to a fact. Personally, I am happy YouTube exists
- Dilpil 17y ago
  The down votes do not signify disagreement with the assertion. They signify that the direction you are choosing to take the discussion in with the comment is inappropriate for this situation.
  - volida 17y ago
    1. I am in this forum since it's beggining. You think I don't know what is appropriate or what is going to be down voted? 2. Your percepetion that I want to pollute the discussion would be valid If only I have history of doing that. i. define "inappropriate" and why/how this "situation" is affected. Since, when comments must allign with one scope? ii. according to your "way" I could say the parent comment concerning "justin.tv bandwidth costs" has nothing to do with this thread, as it's essentially abstract and it contributes nothing. 3. Whoever is annoyed for a fact to be mentioned then it's not my problem.
    - likpok 17y ago
      1. I am in this forum since it's beggining. You think I don't know what is appropriate or what is going to be down voted? In fact, the discussion was about the original article, and bandwidth costs, not the possibility of Youtube/justin.tv having copyrighted content on them. Were this a discussion of copyright, people would probably not feel that your assertions were off-base.
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      - volida 17y ago
        The comment from abstractbill reffered to Credit Suisse report which was about how the analysts have estimated Google's YouTube may lose $470M in 2009 and more in the future. By reffering to that report, it means his comment reffered to justin.tv costs and not on how they do it. Meaning that it's not so expensive according to their experience. So, If I am going to reply to that comment it means I am going to talk about money. If I am going to talk about money I have every right to comment that they are profiting from content owned by someone else, WHICH has nothing to do if its legitimate or not. My comment was as much relevant as the parent comment I replied to. As much for justin.tv, they should better follow YouTube strategy to look broke, because if people who own that content know they are actually profitable someone will knock their door.

by volida 17y ago

I don't know about your costs, but you have seem to have something in common, you both exploit copyrighted content. Maybe soon enough you'll have a lawsit in common.

volida 17y ago

I expected down voting, so for those who of you who doubt what I said, here is a sample of some live evidence: http://www.justin.tv/search?q=soccer&commit=Search http://www.justin.tv/search?q=soccer&commit=Search

smanek 17y ago
You are wrong. Youtube/Justin.tv don't "exploit copyright content." The law explicitly allows what they do. The Online Copyright Infringement Liability Limitation Act creates a safe harbor for online service providers. It specifically says that those sort of sites are not liable for infringement as long as they take down content at the copyright holder's request (i.e., when the copyright holder issues a DMCA takedown notice). There are a lot of details which you can read about at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Copyright_Infringement_Liability_Limitation_Act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Copyright_Infringement_L.... Youtube/Justin have just as much right to host user uploaded content as copyright holders do to enforce their rights.
- volida 17y ago
  4. I am well aware of the DCMA thank you very much.
  - smanek 17y ago
    Then you should know the law allows everything Youtube/Justin do and that your complaint has no validity.
    - volida 17y ago
      I didn't state a complain. I reffered to a fact. Personally, I am happy YouTube exists
Dilpil 17y ago
The down votes do not signify disagreement with the assertion. They signify that the direction you are choosing to take the discussion in with the comment is inappropriate for this situation.
- volida 17y ago
  1. I am in this forum since it's beggining. You think I don't know what is appropriate or what is going to be down voted? 2. Your percepetion that I want to pollute the discussion would be valid If only I have history of doing that. i. define "inappropriate" and why/how this "situation" is affected. Since, when comments must allign with one scope? ii. according to your "way" I could say the parent comment concerning "justin.tv bandwidth costs" has nothing to do with this thread, as it's essentially abstract and it contributes nothing. 3. Whoever is annoyed for a fact to be mentioned then it's not my problem.
  - likpok 17y ago
    1. I am in this forum since it's beggining. You think I don't know what is appropriate or what is going to be down voted? In fact, the discussion was about the original article, and bandwidth costs, not the possibility of Youtube/justin.tv having copyrighted content on them. Were this a discussion of copyright, people would probably not feel that your assertions were off-base.
    - deleted 17y ago
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    - volida 17y ago
      The comment from abstractbill reffered to Credit Suisse report which was about how the analysts have estimated Google's YouTube may lose $470M in 2009 and more in the future. By reffering to that report, it means his comment reffered to justin.tv costs and not on how they do it. Meaning that it's not so expensive according to their experience. So, If I am going to reply to that comment it means I am going to talk about money. If I am going to talk about money I have every right to comment that they are profiting from content owned by someone else, WHICH has nothing to do if its legitimate or not. My comment was as much relevant as the parent comment I replied to. As much for justin.tv, they should better follow YouTube strategy to look broke, because if people who own that content know they are actually profitable someone will knock their door.