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I think I can answer that as a pretty liberal parent. Like you I don't have a big problem with cursing or nudity. But that does not mean I let my kids listen to

I think I can answer that as a pretty liberal parent. Like you I don't have a big problem with cursing or nudity. But that does not mean I let my kids listen to cursing or watch nudity willy nilly. To me it is not that the hearing of cursing itself is bad. The problem is that kids start saying those words themselves in inappropriate settings. That reflects badly upon you as a parent. Things related to nudity, sex, bodily functions etc is not easy either. Like when visiting a restaurant toilet and your son asks questions about how you pie very loud so everybody else can hear. It is not really about the kids, but the fact that everybody care a lot about what everybody else thinks about you and your kids. E.g. in Norway where I am from, it is perfectly normal to let kids run around stark naked at the beach. It is seen as natural and nobody stares or makes a fuss about it. I don't have a problem with that. However when visiting the US, we don't let the kids run around naked at the beach. Not because we suddenly changed our attitudes towards nudity, but because we don't want to stick out. We don't want people to stare at us and think we are bad parents. Ironically I read something related when visiting the DDR museum in Berlin. Being nude at the beach started as a protest against the conformist communist party. But eventually everybody in DDR became a nudist, because they didn't want to stick out by wearing clothes, because the majority stopped doing it.

scotty79 13y ago
I'm not sure but you could probably get arrested for letting your kid run naked in US. If you took pictures of your naked children you'd be charged with producing kiddie porn regardless of context (beach, parent, kids having fun). One mother was charged for leaving her baby in the stroller outside of the diner in the US despite the fact that in her european country it's totally fin and everybody does it.
- anonymous 13y ago
  Wait, so every picture of a naked child is automatically child porn? And you can't let your children run around naked on the beach? Man, you Americans are strange. goes back to eating his soup of sheep's stomach
  - lotharbot 13y ago
    > "every picture of a naked child is automatically child porn?" Legally speaking, no. If the courts were given a picture of your kid running around naked on the beach, doing normal beach things, without any other reason to believe this was "child porn", they'd drop the charges fast. The main danger is that Child Protective Services has a fairly broad mandate. If they're going to make a mistake, they'd rather be overprotective than underprotective. So if you have a picture of a naked child, they're likely to try to have your child removed from your home (temporarily) even if they know the charges won't stick.
    - scotty79 13y ago
      > If the courts were given a picture of your kid running around naked on the beach, doing normal beach things, without any other reason to believe this was "child porn", they'd drop the charges fast. I read that for some people charges were not drop fast enough to not ruin their lives. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2290682/Walmart-Lisa-Anthony-Demaree-lost-custody-children-month-employee-called-police-bath-time-pictures.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2290682/Walmart-Lisa... > If they're going to make a mistake, they'd rather be overprotective than underprotective. That's funny how they think that they are being protective by removing the child from the house where it has spent its entire life because they think that might save the kid few weeks of potential additional abuse.
- driverdan 13y ago
  You are not going to get arrested for having a young kid naked at a beach.
  - scotty79 13y ago
    Well... good to hear. Don't take the pictures though while you are in the US: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2290682/Walmart-Lisa-Anthony-Demaree-lost-custody-children-month-employee-called-police-bath-time-pictures.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2290682/Walmart-Lisa... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2290682/Walmart-Lisa-Anthony-Demaree-lost-custody-children-month-employee-called-police-bath-time-pictures.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2290682/Walmart-Lisa... http://richfield.patch.com/articles/parents-talk-when-are-naked-photos-of-children-ok http://richfield.patch.com/articles/parents-talk-when-are-na...

scotty79 13y ago

I'm not sure but you could probably get arrested for letting your kid run naked in US. If you took pictures of your naked children you'd be charged with producing kiddie porn regardless of context (beach, parent, kids having fun). One mother was charged for leaving her baby in the stroller outside of the diner in the US despite the fact that in her european country it's totally fin and everybody does it.

anonymous 13y ago
Wait, so every picture of a naked child is automatically child porn? And you can't let your children run around naked on the beach? Man, you Americans are strange. goes back to eating his soup of sheep's stomach
- lotharbot 13y ago
  > "every picture of a naked child is automatically child porn?" Legally speaking, no. If the courts were given a picture of your kid running around naked on the beach, doing normal beach things, without any other reason to believe this was "child porn", they'd drop the charges fast. The main danger is that Child Protective Services has a fairly broad mandate. If they're going to make a mistake, they'd rather be overprotective than underprotective. So if you have a picture of a naked child, they're likely to try to have your child removed from your home (temporarily) even if they know the charges won't stick.
  - scotty79 13y ago
    > If the courts were given a picture of your kid running around naked on the beach, doing normal beach things, without any other reason to believe this was "child porn", they'd drop the charges fast. I read that for some people charges were not drop fast enough to not ruin their lives. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2290682/Walmart-Lisa-Anthony-Demaree-lost-custody-children-month-employee-called-police-bath-time-pictures.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2290682/Walmart-Lisa... > If they're going to make a mistake, they'd rather be overprotective than underprotective. That's funny how they think that they are being protective by removing the child from the house where it has spent its entire life because they think that might save the kid few weeks of potential additional abuse.
driverdan 13y ago
You are not going to get arrested for having a young kid naked at a beach.
- scotty79 13y ago
  Well... good to hear. Don't take the pictures though while you are in the US: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2290682/Walmart-Lisa-Anthony-Demaree-lost-custody-children-month-employee-called-police-bath-time-pictures.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2290682/Walmart-Lisa... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2290682/Walmart-Lisa-Anthony-Demaree-lost-custody-children-month-employee-called-police-bath-time-pictures.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2290682/Walmart-Lisa... http://richfield.patch.com/articles/parents-talk-when-are-naked-photos-of-children-ok http://richfield.patch.com/articles/parents-talk-when-are-na...